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Pimpgirl
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| joeodoy wrote: | | Giggling does not favor any one class, and it is accessible to all who are willing to take the time to hunt it. |
This statement might be false from my opinion.
I think giggling box only favor the char that have more vit ( more hp). Compare a 255 vit ninja and a 255 vit Lord knight, you can see the differences. So it does favor certain class. everyone can hunt it and use it but main point is the outcome (heal amount) is different.
| marine wrote: | | only 3 jobs can use bless . acolyte , monk and priest.. sure u can get a bless slave next to u , but if u want to be eficent u will hunt ur rojal jelly as u hunted the gigles . |
this might be false again, certain headgear gives you blessing skill. So, not only those 3 class player can use the blessing skill.
| marine wrote: | Edit: how come movement nerfing wont make u worst , another thing curse also lowers ur flee by half , atk at 25% and speed fuu. Now if i were an sniper i would take advantage of tht movement speed since i have 10 more cells of range than any ranged skill .
Fact: snipers never were nor will be a high hp job because trhey have the range tht nobody can match , hell iseen snipers winin on chemiss , why? they have 10 more cells of range than use yer job properly .
ill repeat myuself u are up a heal spammer? tell ur linked sinx friend to sb it , tell urchamp friend to asura it.. meh just freeze it and leave it there frozen w/e tht float ur boat. |
Not to be offense, but if you make a sniper and that sniper can kill your friend Fullmoon's creator then i will agree with this point. I can tell you out of 10 times u have tried, your sniper still cannot kill her creator. Not only her creator, most of the creator(with pheuma clip) on curse status i saw can kill sniper fast, unless the sniper have gr armor or some rare cards otherwise have no chance to win.
I agree with some of the kinness's statement like the weight limit part, not every chars can spam the giggling box and have same results.
I agree with Zebruh too. People can't avoid it because after healing effect are only based on max hp, so everyone will have different situation.
| marine wrote: | | nop they not similars to ygg , i seen more than once pple usin giglin hp bar go in red and about to die , many times even died , how i see it PARTY. |
I totally agree with this, you just prove that giggling box's after effect based on certain class's max hp. This is what i trying so hard to say.... is not balance for every class....example, you can kill sniper fast but you cannot kill lk fast
I haven vote yet. i still debating myself about the add delay or remove it.
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I'll have to check tomorrow unless someone is up for it.
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| Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:37 am |
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It gives you 9% regardless of class or vit. A player is not limited to a class, if you chose sniper you chose knowing the drawbacks.
You are straying from the purpose of this thread.
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| Pimpgirl wrote: | | joeodoy wrote: | | Giggling does not favor any one class, and it is accessible to all who are willing to take the time to hunt it. |
This statement might be false from my opinion.
I think giggling box only favor the char that have more vit ( more hp). Compare a 255 vit ninja and a 255 vit Lord knight, you can see the differences. So it does favor certain class. everyone can hunt it and use it but main point is the outcome (heal amount) is different.
| marine wrote: | | only 3 jobs can use bless . acolyte , monk and priest.. sure u can get a bless slave next to u , but if u want to be eficent u will hunt ur rojal jelly as u hunted the gigles . |
this might be false again, certain headgear gives you blessing skill. So, not only those 3 class player can use the blessing skill.nop they not similars to ygg , i seen more than once pple usin giglin hp bar go in red and about to die , many times even died , how i see it PARTY.
I totally agree with this, you just prove that giggling box's after effect based on certain class's max hp. This is what i trying so hard to say.... is not balance for every class....example, you can kill sniper fast but you cannot kill lk fast
| marine wrote: | Edit: how come movement nerfing wont make u worst , another thing curse also lowers ur flee by half , atk at 25% and speed fuu. Now if i were an sniper i would take advantage of tht movement speed since i have 10 more cells of range than any ranged skill .
Fact: snipers never were nor will be a high hp job because trhey have the range tht nobody can match , hell iseen snipers winin on chemiss , why? they have 10 more cells of range than use yer job properly .
ill repeat myuself u are up a heal spammer? tell ur linked sinx friend to sb it , tell urchamp friend to asura it.. meh just freeze it and leave it there frozen w/e tht float ur boat. |
Not to be offense, but if you make a sniper and that sniper can kill your friend Fullmoon's creator then i will agree with this point. I can tell you out of 10 times u have tried, your sniper still cannot kill her creator. Not only her creator, most of the creator(with pheuma clip) on curse status i saw can kill sniper fast, unless the sniper have gr armor or some rare cards otherwise have no chance to win.
I agree with some of the kinness's statement like the weight limit part, not every chars can spam the giggling box and have same results.
I agree with Zebruh too. People can't avoid it because after healing effect are only based on max hp, so everyone will have different situation.
| marine wrote: | | nop they not similars to ygg , i seen more than once pple usin giglin hp bar go in red and about to die , many times even died , how i see it PARTY. |
I totally agree with this, you just prove that giggling box's after effect based on certain class's max hp. This is what i trying so hard to say.... is not balance for every class....example, you can kill sniper fast but you cannot kill lk fast
I haven vote yet. i still debating myself about the add delay or remove it. |
1 : not only gigles , mastela fruits , white pots every recovery item will heal more on the one who has more hp .
2:fake or not then go get the hat i posted tht knowin of the headgear , we are not talking here of donations gears are we? u just want to come and try to trown down everything we say or just part of it.
3:i never gave names , if u have a creator with negative vit of course u will never get any hand up of restorative items u last one hit of anyone , dealt with it . Pneuma last if im not wrong 10 seconds ... 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - wait , patiente is important . of c ourse some jobs canot carry gigles , sa crifice some stat and add 50 str for a bit weight capacity . not everyone nid to use gigles to heal . some low viters might find other restorative better . i dont have to be scholing u isit?
I totally agree with this, you just prove that giggling box's after effect based on certain class's max hp. This is what i trying so hard to say.... is not balance for every class....example, you can kill sniper fast but you cannot kill lk fast
dint u said this already 3 times ? yes it does clap clap clap , still if a high vit die even spamin i dont get ur point .. lk spam gigles ? asura? 2 sinx sb in link ? is so hard?
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| Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:01 am |
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| marine wrote: |
1 : not only gigles , mastela fruits , white pots every recovery item will heal more on the one who has more hp .
3:i never gave names , if u have a creator with negative vit of course u will never get any hand up of restorative items u last one hit of anyone , dealt with it . Pneuma last if im not wrong 10 seconds ... 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - wait , patiente is important . of c ourse some jobs canot carry gigles , sa crifice some stat and add 50 str for a bit weight capacity . not everyone nid to use gigles to heal . some low viters might find other restorative better . i dont have to be scholing u isit?
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1. if i not ,mistake is VIT not hp... more VIT heal more not mhp..(if not mistake..example: my homunculus has less hp than me but more VIT than me, when i use potion pitch heal more on it..)
3. 10sec is long......... u can't call it "patient"...X.X
she can kill my sniper with 2 AD means less than 3 sec....
if | marine wrote: | | "wait , patiente is important" |
, no one need kiel to reduce after cast delay...just wait 1sec for after cast AD, 5 sec for SG...1 2 3 4 5 done~
well, we just discuss about this topic, please don't make it like fighting or sound like fighting even we don't have same opinion... 
lets make WoE more fun and not really hate each other..no point!
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| Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:42 am |
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| kinness wrote: | | marine wrote: |
1 : not only gigles , mastela fruits , white pots every recovery item will heal more on the one who has more hp .
3:i never gave names , if u have a creator with negative vit of course u will never get any hand up of restorative items u last one hit of anyone , dealt with it . Pneuma last if im not wrong 10 seconds ... 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - wait , patiente is important . of c ourse some jobs canot carry gigles , sa crifice some stat and add 50 str for a bit weight capacity . not everyone nid to use gigles to heal . some low viters might find other restorative better . i dont have to be scholing u isit?
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1. if i not ,mistake is VIT not hp... more VIT heal more not mhp..(if not mistake..example: my homunculus has less hp than me but more VIT than me, when i use potion pitch heal more on it..)
3. 10sec is long......... u can't call it "patient"...X.X
she can kill my sniper with 2 AD means less than 3 sec....
if | marine wrote: | | "wait , patiente is important" |
, no one need kiel to reduce after cast delay...just wait 1sec for after cast AD, 5 sec for SG...1 2 3 4 5 done~
well, we just discuss about this topic, please don't make it like fighting or sound like fighting even we don't have same opinion...
lets make WoE more fun and not really hate each other..no point! |
1: potion pitcher is based on vit while other items on max hp . pointin tht up .. how come white pot healed me x when i had 1 vit but i was lvl 30 but when i was lvl 70 still with 1 vit white pot healed me more..
3: 10 secs is too long? i dont get how .. walk away from it and take a deep breath , if u die on 2 ad why share it .. i die on 6 ad with no gr on .. even seen pple tht ad just miss =/
wait , patiente is important"[/quote], no one need kiel to reduce after cast delay...just wait 1sec for after cast AD, 5 sec for SG...1 2 3 4 5 done~
i dint said patiente for after. delay , i meant it for the 10 sec pneuma .. i dont get ur point as it look with all the respect tht u are pointing nothing .
edited a few times ,, should read before press submit well who cares.
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ya u are right, i forget check before submit. =p
but y don't correct if u see some mistake there? 
anyway..telling people killed by 2hit AD isn't something shame...
(i'm not killed by poring~)
your friend is strong and i'm not LK and i don't have GR~
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| marine wrote: | | 1 : not only gigles , mastela fruits , white pots every recovery item will heal more on the one who has more hp . |
-Giggling box description is 9% of (MAX) hp, but the other is not. so is totally different level of healing.
| marine wrote: | | 2:fake or not then go get the hat i posted tht knowin of the headgear , we are not talking here of donations gears are we? u just want to come and try to trown down everything we say or just part of it. |
-Don't get any wrong idea and saying i try make up drama here again. I just give my opinion of this, and it seems like you can't accept people's opinion. and about the blessing skill, i wanna add more and prove your statement is wrong, not only the donate headgear gives blessing skill(I'm not talking bout you have to use donate gears but is another way for rich people that can obtain this item in order to use the skill), super novice class can use blessing skill too.
| marine wrote: | | 3:i never gave names , if u have a creator with negative vit of course u will never get any hand up of restorative items u last one hit of anyone , dealt with it . Pneuma last if im not wrong 10 seconds ... 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 - wait , patiente is important . of c ourse some jobs canot carry gigles , sa crifice some stat and add 50 str for a bit weight capacity . not everyone nid to use gigles to heal . some low viters might find other restorative better . i dont have to be scholing u isit? |
-Your statement is wrong again, a creator have negative vit not only last one hit of everyone. You need to go try it before you post anything here. Pheuma from pheuma clip last 10 sec if it pop out, pheuma from champ last ..... when you keep using it. you can answer that yourself.
and yes, not everyone need to use giggling box to heal, so if it have some delay after you using it, it will be fair for other low hp's class? and even it out ? at least those who low hp's class can have chance to win too?
Your wrong mvp spawn time, range time and stated that only 3 classes can use blessing skill prove me enough that you not qualify schooling people.
| marine wrote: | | dint u said this already 3 times ? yes it does clap clap clap , still if a high vit die even spamin i dont get ur point .. lk spam gigles ? asura? 2 sinx sb in link ? is so hard? |
-I did? maybe ? i dunno? i reply the things you guys said ? so is that means i need to clap X 3 for u guys too? who said high vit spammer don't die? and i don't get your point either.
-lk spam giggling and wear a orc lord armor,you die with him if you asura, asura a giggling spammer paladin you die with pally, sinx sb with link same thing you die with pally. Is so hard ? NOP
I'm so sorry if i'm not answering your sentence right because i having hard time understand your sentence. It might be my poor English but i really try my best to understand them.
My opinion will be why don't we try add the delay trial period and see how's thing going ? since the poll is close result. some people use it and some don't so i think is best to try it out and discuss afterward. It actually let people more understandable the situation of giggling box. |
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