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Do you feel that the Ruwatch blindfold is OP?
Yes
38%
 38%  [ 23 ]
No
61%
 61%  [ 36 ]
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GlitchyVirus



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jogradz1225 wrote:
EVERYONE!!

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE DONATE!! IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND NO ONE EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT IT EVER BEFORE THIS ONE...

MOST OF THE PLAYERS HAVE BEEN USING THIS FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND THIS RANT ABOUT IT IS JUST A SELFISH, ONE SIDED THRASH AGAINST AN ITEM THAT EVERYONE DID NOT MIND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY THINK ITS THE ITEM'S FAULT FOR BEING THERE.

Ruwach is a one time use skill, once it hits the hidden avatar, they can rehide after getting hit, to prevent flinching use anodyne before cloaking, sight on the other hand is like a channeling skill, until the fireball disappears, the revealed avatar cannot rehide themselves, if I were you I'd not let sight change the ruwach, it will be more of a disadvantage to you SinXs if you cant re-hide cuz that's what you've been ranting about, you died cuz we saw you.


Wrong.

Ruwach and sight last about the same time. And Ruwach is not "a one time use skill".

But none of this matters. Poll is 22 against 32, clearly no one wants this, and I don't see why anyone would really care.
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Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:56 pm
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I've tried using Anodyne during woe, it wouldn't allow me to. I didn't bother to read through all eight pages of this. I read the first, second, and last post on eight.

Since I main Assassin Cross, here's my personal opinions.

I learned to adapt very quickly to ruwach along with other skills. I have successfully gotten through ruwach and broken emperium. I have also managed to somehow kill LKs. It can be done, but obviously it took teamwork and different builds, gear, patience, and skills. I don't want to hear that it is impossible, because it isn't.

I don't think the ruwach should be taken out of the blindfold. However, an idea here, what if wearing the blindfold would reduce the effectiveness of certain skills? Seeing as this is primarily used by LKs, perhaps it could reduce the effectiveness of bowling bash when it is equipped. As far as I know, there isn't an item or a card that does this, but we do have cards that reduce damage from AD and magic, not to mention elements. I checked on rms, and an LK on an alt account, and did not see that bowling bash had an elemental property. That would depend on what converters the LK uses, but doesn't deal with the main damage of bowling bash itself without elemental property.

I'm not trying to pick out LKs specifically, but I do have to admit that even I agree that Wizzy's got shafted with GTB, Chemist with GR, Deviling, and a few other cards, and yes, Thief class as well with Maya P. This wouldn't be nerfing the skill all the time. Take it off and that effectiveness would come back. This would also give a bit more of a challenge for some, though I know a lot of players love the easy way out. A lot of people use battle mode for a reason. I use it for quick gear switching just like everyone else. I know a lot of people are going to rage over this suggestion, but I feel it is a bit better then taking the skill of ruwach out completely.

Edited to add:

If the blindfold was removed, ruwach would immediately stop. It only makes sense that way.
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Ugh! I'm so sick of hearing about LK's, just about everyone complains about them. White Fatalis the main thing you ever talk to me about in pm's is how you hate LK's and blah blah blah, now we have a suggestion up here to remove ruwach because LK's with 2 meg's is OP? are you freaking kidding me? I don't play much anymore, personally I say do what you want. However I'd still like to toss in my opinion, in the first post ruwach was basically compared to acid demo. As if to say an equip that enables it is comparable to ruwach..... As not just a former frequent player of LK's but as a former competitor in woe/pvp to which I still show up once in a blue moon for fun, I see absolutely no reason to remove such a thing. Black blindfold has been around for a VERY long time with ruwach on it, NOBODY has said a damn word until now.

You know how this looks? It looks like a bunch of cry babies wanting to mold the server to their own benefit. Just be happy that this "blindfold" doesn't enable immunity to blind as blinker does as it's not necessary anyway.

Seta Tokai wrote:
Ruwatch blind fold is op as hell, no skill LKs will whine to keep it in as they want to keep two megs on and don't want to use a sight clip. Lets just make LKs more over powered... use a sight clip or fix the donate please. If you absolutely must live with it, give it permanent darkness blind effect and/or remove the slot.
So someone who doesn't share your opinion has no skill? I see, that's pretty narrow minded and biased. As I've already stated, nobody has had a problem with this item until now after how long? more than a year, who knows, it's been a good while though. I think the only people with no skill are people who complain about LK's being too over powered instead of using what they have to take them down. I'll take sammie aka Nuriko for example or even Toft both snipers. Watched both of them defeat LK's, Vamp aka Jay (I don't care how the server feels about him) has eaten LK's constantly (Vamp is his stalker for those of you who don't know). Stop trying to weaken the class you have the hardest time with and go work on one solution, get better. Tired of this.
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PhantomBlood wrote:
Ugh! I'm so sick of hearing about LK's, just about everyone complains about them. White Fatalis the main thing you ever talk to me about in pm's is how you hate LK's and blah blah blah, now we have a suggestion up here to remove ruwach because LK's with 2 meg's is OP? are you freaking kidding me? I don't play much anymore, personally I say do what you want. However I'd still like to toss in my opinion, in the first post ruwach was basically compared to acid demo. As if to say an equip that enables it is comparable to ruwach..... As not just a former frequent player of LK's but as a former competitor in woe/pvp to which I still show up once in a blue moon for fun, I see absolutely no reason to remove such a thing. Black blindfold has been around for a VERY long time with ruwach on it, NOBODY has said a damn word until now.

You know how this looks? It looks like a bunch of cry babies wanting to mold the server to their own benefit. Just be happy that this "blindfold" doesn't enable immunity to blind as blinker does as it's not necessary anyway.

Seta Tokai wrote:
Ruwatch blind fold is op as hell, no skill LKs will whine to keep it in as they want to keep two megs on and don't want to use a sight clip. Lets just make LKs more over powered... use a sight clip or fix the donate please. If you absolutely must live with it, give it permanent darkness blind effect and/or remove the slot.
So someone who doesn't share your opinion has no skill? I see, that's pretty narrow minded and biased. As I've already stated, nobody has had a problem with this item until now after how long? more than a year, who knows, it's been a good while though. I think the only people with no skill are people who complain about LK's being too over powered instead of using what they have to take them down. I'll take sammie aka Nuriko for example or even Toft both snipers. Watched both of them defeat LK's, Vamp aka Jay (I don't care how the server feels about him) has eaten LK's constantly (Vamp is his stalker for those of you who don't know). Stop trying to weaken the class you have the hardest time with and go work on one solution, get better. Tired of this.

I am restating my opinion in more detail. 1st off, I never whisper you because you quit, 2nd I dont care about ruwatch because Im a damn Stalker, I care because its basically a glorified accessory skill (Sight) available to any class with no drawbacks (giving up an accessory slot). We already have an headgear that gives another accessory skill in the headgear slots on your character (viking helm). Hell we might as well have a donate that auto casts Jupital Thunder, or Spell Breaker, or Lex Aeterna, or Phenuma. Im upset because the headgear grants a stronger version of a skill (normally acquired via accessory) with no drawbacks. Thats my opinion, I never started the topic. I am posting my opinion. Glad you dont agree with it because I dont expect you too nor do I care. I main stalker because I can Kill.
Also you claim I complain about LKs being over powered? With the free accessory skill on that particular class. I think its unfair, It doesnt effect me because I AM A STALKER. In general No... you havent been playing and you havent crossed paths with me, I devour Lord Knights with my build. I have made a character that I am satisfied with and I enjoy playing this server. Im sorry you have to nit-pick things you dont like about me but grow up. Either and enjoy the game or be miserable and dont play.

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Ok now I am usually the one to start troll and flame wars, *USUALLY*
but can we get a lock on this topic before that happens?
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Because that good sir, would make sense, and thus defuse the entire argument.

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Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:52 pm
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I think all that needs to be said, have been said.

At this time, I do not believe that there is enough of an argument for modifying the Black Blindfold.


(I like how everyone lists all the weaknesses of classes except for PNEUMA a simple skill that renders 2.5 classes absolutely useless Confused (my biggest personal RO rant))
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