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yoh
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| marine wrote: | i never farm them, hence i rarely heal with items... but my two cents on this would be to leave them because healing items are mostly helpfull for smaller guilds and low lvl cards players. Whati try to get at is that a 2 kiel chemi can spam pots with no problem and heal AoE at a 30-40k/sec spam ? :S while if you dont have any kiel you'll depend on your bard wich is most likely to be focused by the other team to death.
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you may have this info to even the argument with "small" guilds ... well how bout a guild so small only one person does woe and that person not being maxed that does not even care to use giggles nor pancakes due to various reasons and the #1 reason is laziness |
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| Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:25 pm |
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| marine wrote: | i never farm them, hence i rarely heal with items... but my two cents on this would be to leave them because healing items are mostly helpfull for smaller guilds and low lvl cards players. Whati try to get at is that a 2 kiel chemi can spam pots with no problem and heal AoE at a 30-40k/sec spam ? :S while if you dont have any kiel you'll depend on your bard wich is most likely to be focused by the other team to death.
hope this helped
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Call me skeptical, but I don't think that healing items are going to help the smaller guilds out if the larger guilds can use them, too.
Looks like a waste of time, farming all of those healing items only to lose all or most of them trying to stay alive against a guild that has just so much more daka than you. |
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| Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:43 pm |
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| Monochrome wrote: | | marine wrote: | i never farm them, hence i rarely heal with items... but my two cents on this would be to leave them because healing items are mostly helpfull for smaller guilds and low lvl cards players. Whati try to get at is that a 2 kiel chemi can spam pots with no problem and heal AoE at a 30-40k/sec spam ? :S while if you dont have any kiel you'll depend on your bard wich is most likely to be focused by the other team to death.
hope this helped
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Call me skeptical, but I don't think that healing items are going to help the smaller guilds out if the larger guilds can use them, too.
Looks like a waste of time, farming all of those healing items only to lose all or most of them trying to stay alive against a guild that has just so much more daka than you. |
DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!!
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A level 40 nub account can get honey yes, but not pancakes as it requires the chef hat which is a time consuming quest. Then again these are guilds we're talking about and such a quest is trivial to them.
As i said with pancakes though, their main function should be the + str NOT the heal %. Giggles need a cool-down or a larger draw back to their use for a slightly larger heal % like coma instead of curse. |
Uh what chefs hat?
I dont have any and I can make pancakes just fine, and if you want I can make more for you just to prove you wrong.
As for giggles, its the fact that they are harder to get than pancakes, from not even having the right card alone to farm them, that makes them worse than pancakes.
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Because that good sir, would make sense, and thus defuse the entire argument. |
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| Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:25 pm |
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| Quote: | Uh what chefs hat?
I dont have any and I can make pancakes just fine, and if you want I can make more for you just to prove you wrong.
As for giggles, its the fact that they are harder to get than pancakes, from not even having the right card alone to farm them, that makes them worse than pancakes. |
Last i checked with luzz you where supposed to require the chef hat and cooking quest before you could cook anything. Perhaps this is a glitch, or he didnt understand what i was asking, or its something that needs to be looked into.
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| Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:04 pm |
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| Maico wrote: | | Quote: | Uh what chefs hat?
I dont have any and I can make pancakes just fine, and if you want I can make more for you just to prove you wrong.
As for giggles, its the fact that they are harder to get than pancakes, from not even having the right card alone to farm them, that makes them worse than pancakes. |
Last i checked with luzz you where supposed to require the chef hat and cooking quest before you could cook anything. Perhaps this is a glitch, or he didnt understand what i was asking, or its something that needs to be looked into. |
I've never needed a Chef Hat before, I didn't even know it existed. XD I just made like three DEX foods to try but then realized it takes forever to get all those Tongues, so I gave up. 
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| Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:13 pm |
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| yoh wrote: | | marine wrote: | i never farm them, hence i rarely heal with items... but my two cents on this would be to leave them because healing items are mostly helpfull for smaller guilds and low lvl cards players. Whati try to get at is that a 2 kiel chemi can spam pots with no problem and heal AoE at a 30-40k/sec spam ? :S while if you dont have any kiel you'll depend on your bard wich is most likely to be focused by the other team to death.
hope this helped
flame on |
you may have this info to even the argument with "small" guilds ... well how bout a guild so small only one person does woe and that person not being maxed that does not even care to use giggles nor pancakes due to various reasons and the #1 reason is laziness |
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:23 am |
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| Monochrome wrote: | | marine wrote: | i never farm them, hence i rarely heal with items... but my two cents on this would be to leave them because healing items are mostly helpfull for smaller guilds and low lvl cards players. Whati try to get at is that a 2 kiel chemi can spam pots with no problem and heal AoE at a 30-40k/sec spam ? :S while if you dont have any kiel you'll depend on your bard wich is most likely to be focused by the other team to death.
hope this helped
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Call me skeptical, but I don't think that healing items are going to help the smaller guilds out if the larger guilds can use them, too.
Looks like a waste of time, farming all of those healing items only to lose all or most of them trying to stay alive against a guild that has just so much more daka than you. |
totally right. |
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:27 am |
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I prefer having a cool-down on this. Reason for this is because it was kinda annoying when a few people use Devotion - Spam Pancakes. Sure, healing items are good and all, but it's just annoying when you're already a Paladin, Devoting someone else, and spamming them at the same time. That's the reason why I prefer a cool-down on healing items.
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:29 am |
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| Maico wrote: | | Quote: | Uh what chefs hat?
I dont have any and I can make pancakes just fine, and if you want I can make more for you just to prove you wrong.
As for giggles, its the fact that they are harder to get than pancakes, from not even having the right card alone to farm them, that makes them worse than pancakes. |
Last i checked with luzz you where supposed to require the chef hat and cooking quest before you could cook anything. Perhaps this is a glitch, or he didnt understand what i was asking, or its something that needs to be looked into. |
Jesus some people will come up with ANYTHING to make their pride and ignorance seem justified instead of just accepting and using the god damn things.
First everyone says "what about the poor noobies", then I say "they can do it too, nothing is stopping them " then you all say "Buuuut waaaait thats not right, noobies having it easy??!!!"
So are you for or against helping newbies here in the battle of fairness?
Because right now pancakes are the only thing leveling the playing field between someone who is 255 +900000 Kiels + AD, and someone who doesn't have any god gears, and no-one ever made a peep about any recovery items till the people with TONS of god gears and cards came back and found out what worked 9 months ago is no longer working today. I mean shit people are even trying to change regular game mechanics with WoE because they cant beat someone at their own game, so they have to change the game itself to win it. <<<<<<<<(This is in regards to the comments about, "Its not a fight anymore, its a damned race game *flips the computer screen and leaves*" Well so what if it is? Shits changed, and not by means of everything being changed forcibly like the stuff some people are suggesting. It changed while nothing in the game did, so why its so awful idk)
Good grief, all thats missing is a contract made by the devil bartered and signed in your bloo... oh wait nevermind, I have it right here 
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| EdgarGrimfang wrote: |
Because that good sir, would make sense, and thus defuse the entire argument. |
| EdgarGrimfang wrote: | Remember kids, Cigarettes are alot like hamsters. Utterly harmless to have until placed into your mouth, and lit on fire.
Don't smoke hamsters kids. |
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:42 pm |
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | Maico wrote: | | Quote: | Uh what chefs hat?
I dont have any and I can make pancakes just fine, and if you want I can make more for you just to prove you wrong.
As for giggles, its the fact that they are harder to get than pancakes, from not even having the right card alone to farm them, that makes them worse than pancakes. |
Last i checked with luzz you where supposed to require the chef hat and cooking quest before you could cook anything. Perhaps this is a glitch, or he didnt understand what i was asking, or its something that needs to be looked into. |
Jesus some people will come up with ANYTHING to make their pride and ignorance seem justified instead of just accepting and using the god damn things.
First everyone says "what about the poor noobies", then I say "they can do it too, nothing is stopping them " then you all say "Buuuut waaaait thats not right, noobies having it easy??!!!"
So are you for or against helping newbies here in the battle of fairness?
Because right now pancakes are the only thing leveling the playing field between someone who is 255 +900000 Kiels + AD, and someone who doesn't have any god gears, and no-one ever made a peep about any recovery items till the people with TONS of god gears and cards came back and found out what worked 9 months ago is no longer working today. I mean shit people are even trying to change regular game mechanics with WoE because they cant beat someone at their own game, so they have to change the game itself to win it. <<<<<<<<(This is in regards to the comments about, "Its not a fight anymore, its a damned race game *flips the computer screen and leaves*" Well so what if it is? Shits changed, and not by means of everything being changed forcibly like the stuff some people are suggesting. It changed while nothing in the game did, so why its so awful idk)
Good grief, all thats missing is a contract made by the devil bartered and signed in your bloo... oh wait nevermind, I have it right here |
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:23 pm |
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its a matter of now-a-days that you HAVE to farm healing items to keep up with any guild. other-wise you dont have no chance at beating them, period.
@cad- I've killed you plenty of times with using healing items. you even complained to me a few times that i would die if i didnt use them, THAT is true. You have beat'en me while i used items but that is very slim number of times sir..if at all just once or twice ONLY.
but anywayz, the healing items do help GREATLY somtimes is the only reason why i beat someone or a group of ppl (vise-versa for others) or atleast tank long enough to exicute some woe plans. but fact of the matter... YOU HAVE TO FARM HEALING ITEMS TO GET ANYTHING DONE DURING WOE, OTHERWISE YOUR BASICALLY F'D IN THE A**. YOU WONT WIN~ I GARUNTEE THAT THESE DAYS. if you dont believe me, go into woe and dont use healing items and see what happens. !!!!
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:33 pm |
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| Treblig888 wrote: | its a matter of now-a-days that you HAVE to farm healing items to keep up with any guild. other-wise you dont have no chance at beating them, period.
@cad- I've killed you plenty of times with using healing items. you even complained to me a few times that i would die if i didnt use them, THAT is true. You have beat'en me while i used items but that is very slim number of times sir..if at all just once or twice ONLY.
but anywayz, the healing items do help GREATLY somtimes is the only reason why i beat someone or a group of ppl (vise-versa for others) or atleast tank long enough to exicute some woe plans. but fact of the matter... YOU HAVE TO FARM HEALING ITEMS TO GET ANYTHING DONE DURING WOE, OTHERWISE YOUR BASICALLY F'D IN THE A**. YOU WONT WIN~ I GARUNTEE THAT THESE DAYS. if you dont believe me, go into woe and dont use healing items and see what happens. !!!! |
I don't use healing items. ._.
But anyways, when you're attacking and you have a huge guild, it's sometimes just the matter of getting to the Emp. Basically all you have to have is a bunch of people spamming Pancakes or something then run to the Emp and just smash it. And like whoever else said that WoE has become a race to smash the Emp, I'm starting to agree with them now. :O
Either way, using it is fine, which is why I much rather prefer a cooldown on it rather than completely removing it out of the list of usable items in WoE.
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:38 pm |
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| marine wrote: | | GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | Maico wrote: |
Last i checked with luzz you where supposed to require the chef hat and cooking quest before you could cook anything. Perhaps this is a glitch, or he didnt understand what i was asking, or its something that needs to be looked into. |
Jesus some people will come up with ANYTHING to make their pride and ignorance seem justified instead of just accepting and using the god damn things.
First everyone says "what about the poor noobies", then I say "they can do it too, nothing is stopping them " then you all say "Buuuut waaaait thats not right, noobies having it easy??!!!"
So are you for or against helping newbies here in the battle of fairness?
Because right now pancakes are the only thing leveling the playing field between someone who is 255 +900000 Kiels + AD, and someone who doesn't have any god gears, and no-one ever made a peep about any recovery items till the people with TONS of god gears and cards came back and found out what worked 9 months ago is no longer working today. I mean shit people are even trying to change regular game mechanics with WoE because they cant beat someone at their own game, so they have to change the game itself to win it. <<<<<<<<(This is in regards to the comments about, "Its not a fight anymore, its a damned race game *flips the computer screen and leaves*" Well so what if it is? Shits changed, and not by means of everything being changed forcibly like the stuff some people are suggesting. It changed while nothing in the game did, so why its so awful idk)
Good grief, all thats missing is a contract made by the devil bartered and signed in your bloo... oh wait nevermind, I have it right here |
flame on bebe |
....... Lovely, almost every suggestion thread there a Flame Party.
Pancake does need a cool down or some sort of disadvantage. Does people with Rares use Healing Items? WoE is a part of the game. Nothing in life is fair. Nothing in Reign is fair. Players with Rares either work hard in Reign or in real life to obtain those cards. Many players play without Rares, and yet they're still playing. Why? They learn that Reign is just a game, and it's fun to fight against a stronger force. If everything in Reign is "Fair" then what the point of playing? Since everybody will eventually do the same damage, have the same rares, have the same healing items, etc.
Instead of a cool down for pancake how about making it harder to make pancake. Maybe that will help people from spamming so much during WoE.
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| Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:56 pm |
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| sourlime wrote: | | marine wrote: | | GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | Maico wrote: |
Last i checked with luzz you where supposed to require the chef hat and cooking quest before you could cook anything. Perhaps this is a glitch, or he didnt understand what i was asking, or its something that needs to be looked into. |
Jesus some people will come up with ANYTHING to make their pride and ignorance seem justified instead of just accepting and using the god damn things.
First everyone says "what about the poor noobies", then I say "they can do it too, nothing is stopping them " then you all say "Buuuut waaaait thats not right, noobies having it easy??!!!"
So are you for or against helping newbies here in the battle of fairness?
Because right now pancakes are the only thing leveling the playing field between someone who is 255 +900000 Kiels + AD, and someone who doesn't have any god gears, and no-one ever made a peep about any recovery items till the people with TONS of god gears and cards came back and found out what worked 9 months ago is no longer working today. I mean shit people are even trying to change regular game mechanics with WoE because they cant beat someone at their own game, so they have to change the game itself to win it. <<<<<<<<(This is in regards to the comments about, "Its not a fight anymore, its a damned race game *flips the computer screen and leaves*" Well so what if it is? Shits changed, and not by means of everything being changed forcibly like the stuff some people are suggesting. It changed while nothing in the game did, so why its so awful idk)
Good grief, all thats missing is a contract made by the devil bartered and signed in your bloo... oh wait nevermind, I have it right here :twisted: |
flame on bebe |
....... Lovely, almost every suggestion thread there a Flame Party.
Pancake does need a cool down or some sort of disadvantage. Does people with Rares use Healing Items? WoE is a part of the game. Nothing in life is fair. Nothing in Reign is fair. Players with Rares either work hard in Reign or in real life to obtain those cards. Many players play without Rares, and yet they're still playing. Why? They learn that Reign is just a game, and it's fun to fight against a stronger force. If everything in Reign is "Fair" then what the point of playing? Since everybody will eventually do the same damage, have the same rares, have the same healing items, etc.
Instead of a cool down for pancake how about making it harder to make pancake. Maybe that will help people from spamming so much during WoE. |
You couldn't possibly be more wrong if you tried.
The devotion people have towards this will make them get the pancakes, and sell them at even more outrageous prices.
They will always make them and they'll still have as many as they have now.
If you make it too hard to create them, they'll just move onto the next item.
I fully support item cool downs, but I'm unsure of one thing. |
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