[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

Bubba can not read quotes some times.

[Stiffler]

[Paragon]

Hey I am a player too GM account or not. This is my discussion too. On top of that I felt that the thread was getting out of hand because of certain people, AND If I want to remind everyone to play nice, even for no reason. I will do so, because I can and it's not bad advice, even when it doesn't apply. I was also trying to be cautious, not attack anyone. I always add opinions to the conversation also.

@Bubba: You may loose money for buying smaller quantities, but almost all products for most things make you lose money. That is just how it is, and I was in support of the idea, not necessarily the price Edgar gave specifically. However again, products are like that. In card games you can usually get an abundance of cards for say 50 dollars, and then pay 15 for a smaller amount to where, EVEN if you bought 50 dollars worth, you would not get the same amount of cards, and therefor lose money. That is usually how it works. Whether or not Bloody branches should be so I am biased on and therefore do not have an opinion yet.

I will remind you all again. I am a player too regardless of my account, and am a player even if I were to only be a GM. I am allowed my opinion like all of you including the right to tell you to calm down if I feel like it. I didn't threaten anyone and the only real person out of line was "gtfo stfu" guy, who's name I cannot recall at this second. Again I aplogize if you felt threatened or that I was not being relevant to the thread as I am trying to do both if I felt the need.

Aside of that... If you call Stiffler and Marine's posts Spirited Debate, then I believe you to just be less cautious then me. Especially considering Stiffler is no long a member of the in game community and is having such a "spirited" debate about it. That is my opinion. Take it how you see it.

@Bubba: I do however respect your politeness in your opinion of my posts. Thanks for that. (not sarcasm)
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[Stiffler]

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[Glenfiddich]

I don't get it.

Dont we want card prices to drop? Everyone always whinges about the economy, yet when a suggestion comes up that would potentially aid in the problem, every suggestion is hated instantly. It's like we hate the economy, but dont want to do anything about it.

I'm not saying it's the greatest idea, but I'm all for anything that will help.
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[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

[Maico]

Cheaper cards is a good thing
Cheaper because there are more of them is not always a good thing. I think that's why some people voted no.
Decreasing the rate or removing the rate of certain spawns on a BB means that even if its by a little, more cards will be on the server. That alone is a reason to not change it.
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[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

It still staggers any hope of any competition popping up and having a fair chance, and thus stagnating the server even more than it already has been.

(I mean shit thank god SoS came back, shit was boring before they came along, it was always 3 Guilds, and the third guild hiring a secondary /smaller sized guild who had some stacks of MVP's to do their dirty work if they were @ max castles with their main and sub guild, least with SoS we have some randomness happening alot)

[AbaraiGirl]

I think a chance to even the playing field, so to speak, by putting a few more cards in circulation couldnt hurt. Maybe people will stop claiming SOS has all the cards. Maybe it will motivate folks to try harder in pvp/WoE...Maybe it will stop people from feeling all hope is lost and giving up/quitting Reign altogether.
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*cough cough* Too late, half the server hates SOS when WoE comes.*Not one of them*

But to the point, im not going to read the first 3 pages.
Here is my opinion.

Cheaper donates = Less money for server.
Cheaper Branches = More cards= Less people donating for BB.
Less people donating= Server loosing money.
Server loosing money = It might have to close.

It having to close = A problem.


So shut up okes, Luzz made it very fair.

Finished and klaar ( afrikaans)
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[PhantomBlood]

server hating SOS in itself is a problem as it was already admitted it was a good thing we came back, that's a side note in all this to be honest. here's my take on EVERYthing since I've just about had enough of all USD transactions making reign feel like a job more than a game.

Cheaper donates does not need to happen, infact the BB script doesn't need to change outside of removing beelzebub and maybe ifrit. Reason being I came from a server before returning to reign that had 13 maps covered in more than one beelzebub because players of any server don't want anything to do with them, this will happen mainly on DD days if it continues. other than that keep arena MVP's in because I support the idea of the new MVP arena which I will talk about right now-

As a person who has done a fair amount of scripting in his time I know how long it'll take luzz to completely redo an entire arena script. this doesn't have to happen. The MVP's jay mentioned in a post could be broken down into 4 groups. keep the current NPC's and the arena maps as is and just change the scripted options, remove the MVP's and create the option to spawn what you will after giving tokens etc whatever the case may be. Also these rooms should have the same private pvp password system on them so random people can't come in and KS, this way if friends want to help said player they can give said friend(s) the password.
As for the USD part, it would correct it thus returning reign from a job back to a game as it was meant to be, who's gonna fork out $110 for a thana when they can save up zeny and spawn the damn thing themselves? No one that's who. This arena idea would not stop donation of BB's because even if you did "said" quest to not have to pay zeny, you can't kick the 15 minute down time which people are not going to want to wait out in a double drop day which only ever lasts 24 hours, I for one would still get BB's and a fair amount of em at that.
People would also stop complaining that SOS has all the cards and that's the only reason why we're good and blah blah all that BS meanwhile every player on the server even those incapable of donating would certainly be capable of spawning some MVP's to help further their playing experience, this knocks down card prices and everyone gets a fair chance then we can all see if SOS really is only good cause of cards or not. On another note enough about SOS in general this is about the server itself not one guild, the idea further benefits the server as a whole since I myself have seen so called "players" killing MVP's for cards just to make USD off the players and not actually playing on the server. I will not state character names but I know I am not mistaken in this statement. It is a huge problem, I know people are afraid of change but that's life and this is a game. If the change is for the better then why vote against it. Current MVP card prices would also be fixed etc.

Having this idea come to pass would also boost competition on the server for a very obvious reason that goes without saying as it has in so many words been stated as is. ReignRO is not a business, it is not an official server even if our GM's try their damnedest to imitate it as best they can. ReignRO is a server that has something special about it in my honest opinion, never have I experienced a server in my 8 years of RO where people became such close friends and in some cases even more than that. Amongst the drama of pvp/woe, and different guilds etc somewhere along the lines we all forgot that. Just cause we're in different guilds doesn't make us enemies, an online RPG game is not meant for such hostility. In a game like this there are going to be stronger and weaker guilds/players etc, but we all grow and become stronger both individually and as a team in terms of the playing experience itself. This idea was brought up BECAUSE we want more competition which attracts more attention to the entire server as well as solving the issues I've brought up in this message. Though this goes without saying I think a lot of people forget there's people behind these walls of text sitting in front of a monitor, is why we have a picture thread imo lol. As a person and player that cares an awful lot about the future of this server I implore you all to put down your E-knives and work things out rationally. Different guild or not we all have ONE thing in common and that is we care about reign or we wouldn't have a suggestion thread to begin with. Keep that in mind please.

Closing Statement: I don't log on reign to feel like I've arrived to a stressful day at work, I know none of you do either. Bury the hatchet and think what's best for the server and not for yourselves as individuals.
As for the BB script which is what this topic is supposed to be about, I've already stated far above that beelzebub and possibly ifrit could be a problem by being left on several maps including the private pvp rooms and I'm sure none of us want to clean up useless annoying MVP's all over reign maps. I did enough of that on the last server I was on, no thank you. Please carefully consider what I have said, my intentions with this long statement is not for any bad blood between me and anyone else or amongst other players. Simply a fellow player in the reign community trying to better the experience for all of us. Thank you~
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