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Impliment?
Yes
57%
 57%  [ 12 ]
No
42%
 42%  [ 9 ]
Total Votes : 21

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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT



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Xzerostu wrote:
all of you are defeating the purpose.

this idea is so that gtb isnt changed. and theres a way around it.

Its a compromise so please appreciate it, and say yes or no. Not argue.

Dude it wont matter, it doesnt matter to these people at all that GTB itself isnt being changed, it doesnt matter that more people will play more classes because of a change like this (Which they all claim to promote, playing different classes....)

If ANYTHING can screw with their magic immunity even though its soooo crappy according to them that no-one hardly uses it, it just has to be beat down and thrashed, because god forbid LK not be the one man army like it is right now with a Ahura Donate.

If you mess with their precious LK class, or introduce a way to balance around it, you may as well be a "Islamic terrorist" or equivalent there of in their eyes.

Like I said before, this is not changing GTB, at all it will still remain the same card, the only thing thats changing, is mages/Profs have SOME way to fight against it now instead of being told to "switch classes"

There is absolutely no logical reason anyone should have voted "No" other then that "Oh no, they're gonna harm me and my precious GTB oh dear oh me oh my, those xeno scum, they MUST be stopped!"
Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:20 am
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Fcp is dispelled in all pvps apon entry. So i wouldnt worry so much about that.

Islamic terroist is a bad comparison, dude today is 9/11; show some respect =0

I think lks are defenseless weak little toys, for my stalker and sniper to pick off.

I think the reason people are saying no is because Dispell being allowed on FCP. Thats changing a big change right there
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Its not dispelled upon entry, thats why people Ahura outside of castles, then charge in and change shields.

Sorry, but half of these anti change people are probably the same brainwashed republicans who think a "I win mosque" is being built right ontop of ground zero by right wing media.

You have never had a LK wear a anti arrow clip or just go past you, ignore you, hit your EMP, and stay there attacking your emp so if his anti arrow DOES go off, is going off on a spot he wont be easily removed from have you?

I'm sorry but I just dont see it being THAT big of a change, and if people are so freaking worried about mages with AOE+Strip shield and a prof with Dispell, this will only create more professors, and all professors have Land Protector to counteract any mages with AoE.

Afterall, why should a LK autowin a 2(Wiz/Prof)v1(LK) because he has one magical card? Shouldnt a (LK/Prof)2v2(Wiz/Prof) have to fight fairly based on skill instead of one person wearing a instant win card, and the other 2 being told if they want to beat it to "just change classes derrrrrrrrp"
Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:48 am
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
Well, Paladin with 0 SP, not shut down but it will be a much more fair fight
Champ/priest without SP...... heheheheheh *evilface*
SinX/Stalker without SP, depends on what he got off before you SB'd him and what his build is.
Archers/clowns without SP.... third only to champs/Ninja without SP, and with bows and arrows if they switch to GTB they doomed
Mage/Prof without SP, they wont be in dire situations, but it does help and they wont be spamming anything even if they have 3X Kiels
GS w/o SP.... hilarious, add in a anti arrow clip and you're golden but if he has a GTB on he is failing anyways
Ninja... this is a huge shutdown on them.

(I should also mention on my old server Pantings / Blue pots were removed from ranked PVP of any type aside from random duels, so LK's couldnt pop one then get going again with a free insta heal at double HP, and be the most dominating class, this also screwed pure asura build champs over and soul burn happy professors, but the risk was well worth it)

Also @Glen, get those people please =D


You're logic is pretty much still the same as before. This is one card that mainly take out magic spell; if you must talk about a card that take out certain class in the game. Then let's talk about one very common card that take out 3 class. Yes, this is not a mvp card it's just an Errende Ebecee, a card that can take out the following class Sniper, Creator, and Gunslinger. It's one card, if you can't use magic skill user magic crasher. Also, if you WoE against player with GTB, then they must at least bring a few panting box or blue box. A sniper without SP can still kick ass, but just one question bow are two handed.... Not every class need sp, and you should not try to nail down every single class to the base of your opinion. Instead of arguing about GTB, find ways around it.
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Such as?
List them people, right now Mages cant do shit, profs are up a river, but not without a very very very small paddle atleast (cobweb), and ninjas are screwed unless they go shuriken build, but if your doing that you may as well just have made a different class alltogether anyways.

I also know you love abusing your GTB you borrow from your buddies, so we all know what you voted.
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Hmmm, my GTB is borrow? Do I need to ask the person that sold me GTB to post in this forum to prove that everything you type in this thread are only base on your lack of knowledge?
I don't understand why must you bring up my cards in a thread that was suppose to be a discussion of GTB.

GTB is overpowering to magic skill, if you want to bring up the disadvantage of WoE. Try playing a sniper, there is a range reduction, no shield, anti-arrow, etc. Every single class have it advantage and disadvantage. Sniper give up shield for range. Assassin give up shield for another weapon, but they can still use shield with one dagger. Every single class have its disadvantage, instead of arguing about it enjoy the game. This is just a game, once you log off you're still a person behind the screen.
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Okay, THIS THREAD

Is about makinga compromise, so peopel if dispell isnt that bad? and if we dont want gtb changed, why cant this be a good compromise, strip shield level one wouldnt do jack shit, a Prof or a wiz do not luck, or enough dex to make ti effective msot of the time unless your pretty good, and being able to dispell fpc, half the people think that it can be done anyways. So who cares.

This is not a change gtb thread, NOT A CHANGE GTB THREAD. Grandpa no offense but stfu(and i really mean that, no offense forreal). Your argue and ruin the point.

This isnt about lks, this isnt about gtb, this about compromise to end a damn argument. Take it from someone who wields a prof and doesnt fear gtb.

People this is a good idea. Why? because it doesnt change gameplay, as little as possible. It incorporates a neat donate item that isnt in anyway overpowered. And not to mention it barley touches gtb in such a way that everyone can be happy.

And im sure that people will possibly say oh it still shoudl be nerfed, well randgris gets around and if this is implmented , it can be used for those classes.

This isnt a big deal of a change, what i hate about those who are gtb change haters: is they dont pay attention to normal people who are pro no gtb change. Well ive changed that, since no one is going to listen to me hardly, and just sit here and argue with fkin Grandpa and glenn, Then why should there be a compromise?

Well damnit i care about this argument being gone.

SO ATTENTION HERE PEOPLE

and i dont mean grandpa, or glen, or cadians arguments, or anyones damn opinionated arguments, that are not towards "TRENTS" "XZEROSTUS" "AGNILAMS" IDEA. MINE, MY ARGUMENT. PAY ATTENTION HERE AND THIS IS THE POINT

This makes compromises and barley changes a fly worth of work, but it seems an argument cant be avoided here. So please would you peopel do me a favor and just let the silly nerf of gtb thats so insignifcant happen. So these people will stfu. Yes
Shut the fk up.

Becuase its the same argument in 80 million threads.

So no offense to anyone again.

and if that wasnt seen no offense to anyone

please: Consider my argument. Not grandpa, not glen. not cadian none of that. ME:
Strip shield level 1 donate for 5 credits like grafiti skill giving black bandana.
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Dispell through gtb, and allowed dispellability of FCP.

Comment on this please.
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I would rather you just made another thread yourself, this one isnt salvagable with all the "GTB LK MUST >ALL, and everyone MUST CHANGE CLASS" defenders out there.

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-.- Not my fault grandpa post were more attracting and disturbing

Beside that, are we talking about a donation item that can bypass fcp?

Edit: Wouldn't it be much better people just delete their crappy argument post?
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I have remade the thread, i would really appreciate you please read my post and explanation and that this thread be trashed or forgotten. Please let hear me out, and ignore the arguing of before, i am not a pro change gtb guy, and have argued to keep the same but please hear me out and refer to my thread: GTB idea from a normal person. Thank you

http://www.reignonline.net/viewtopic.php?t=2229

remember i am a nuetral party looking for compromise.

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dragonbug wrote:
Xzerostu wrote:
there is skill in knowing when you cant win, and you need to change.



agreed. sometimes you to cut your losses and just accept you can win every fight with every glass. ive stated that many times glenn >>


But you have said that it is skill, even when gtb is involved. I can quote it if you like.

So u do agree it destroys magic that you need to change class? That's all I was after lol.
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well i guess this can be the argue thread but hey glen got vote on my new one
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Glenfiddich wrote:
dragonbug wrote:
Xzerostu wrote:
there is skill in knowing when you cant win, and you need to change.



agreed. sometimes you to cut your losses and just accept you can win every fight with every glass. ive stated that many times glenn >>


But you have said that it is skill, even when gtb is involved. I can quote it if you like.

So u do agree it destroys magic that you need to change class? That's all I was after lol.


yes you can still use skill. and as i said before...you know what. im done arguing cause no matter what valid point i make you just quote mine me to get what answer you want. so peace!
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i voted yes :B
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