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New Style MVP room
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Wolfsdhorm; in all honesty, you didn't even read the first post. You can either pay for the MVP's, or do a hidden quest to get a MVP Arena Pass, which allows for free summons. The only time you have to pay when using the pass is when you use vouchers that negate the wait time. As stated before the reason for the use of zeny to summon is to stop the over farming of MVP's and let people get a feel for what the price should be for cards.

Now with gear and killing MVP's are you honestly kidding me? I can one hit every MVP in the game except Ktu, and Ifrit. Then again with lex I can 1 hit them. Thats with me wearing the same gear and not changing. So that part of your argument is nullified, learn how to use a champ on here, hell even on other servers its the same gear, just exclude the angra for a quad mace with AK and the ahura for a alice shield. BUAHAHAHAHAHA.

Also even with your thread being unlocked it would have still failed. Players on here don't want everyone having the best card possible, by going to the MVP room. This MVP room is passing because everyone has a say which MVP is in which is out. By the looks of it everyone had almost the same list.

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1. Don't try and provoke Skye, repurcussions will not be nice (she can be scary o.o)

2. If you want every MVP the reign probably isn't for you. Look for a higher rate maybe, because the gm's of reign have decided against it. One of the reasons I am still here is because they don't have such a room.



I concur, the MVP room should not have the most powerful MVP's in it. Hence why they were voted out in the first round. They are still in the game but dedicated players should be the one's who get those by hunting them in their map's.
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I am really surprised that you all want SK in the mvp room....

IF this gets implemented,,,, you'll see alot more SGs in the pvp room....

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note: wolfsdhorm on school comp.

I did read the 1st post...but who would want to have to do the trouble of doing that quest if it's a HIDDEN quest and what would be the point in having the pass if you have to pay if you use the voucher? that COMPLETELY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE PASS. And about the find higher rate server, I hate changing servers after i have made so many friends here. I only joined this server because my other two servers, AnimaRO(name changed and so is everything about it) and SpiritusRO were taken down. If it wasn't for that i would never have come here. No matter what you say i still stand by my option because you never know if someone might agree with mine.
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sdhorm wrote:
I did read the 1st post...but who would want to have to do the trouble of doing that quest

Quests are meant to be a challenge. They are not meant to be easy.
This suggestion is not in any way related to "how troublesome" a quest is.

It is for the player to decide if they are willing to do a quest. Without effort, there is no reward. That is not an issue in any of the suggestions you have brought up the "trouble" of the quest. Stop it.
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Constantly killing whatever mvp you like? Thats like fail on a stick. Absolutely everyone will have absolutely every card they want :S

Paying to negate time @ 5 mil isn't tooo bad i guess.
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[quote="Skye"]Quests are meant to be a challenge. They are not meant to be easy.
This suggestion is not in any way related to "how troublesome" a quest is.

It is for the [b]player[/b] to decide if they are willing to do a quest. Without effort, there is no reward. That is not an issue in [b]any[/b] of the suggestions you have brought up the "trouble" of the quest. Stop it.[/quote]

No offence, Skye, but i said "Who would want to do a quest if it's HIDDEN. . .". I understand it is for the player to chose to do the quest or not, and I understand that quests are not supposed to be easy. But if it's hidden then why go out and look for it in the 1st place? Just so you can have a pass that gives you only 1 free MvP with-in a 10-20 time span unless you have a voucher? But then what's the point in the pass if that voucher negates making the MvP free? Here's a suggestion i just came up with. Use any MvP list you choose, all, specific, or even only the ones in the current MvP room. Instead of having to pay for all of them unless you have a pass and instead of the time wait, the pass allows you to get a special item, like maybe a droped item that is REALLY hard to get(i.e. certain cards, note: not directly saying for cards). And instead of a 10-20 min wait why not a 0-20 minture wait depending on the MvP. Like if it's a Doppelganger, why not have them wait for 0-5 minutes to get another one to kill? There is not point in a pass that gives free MvP if you use a voucher to "kill" the 10-20 minute wait and using the voucher makes the pass's effect for a free MvP totally useless.
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Glenfiddich wrote:
Constantly killing whatever mvp you like? Thats like fail on a stick. Absolutely everyone will have absolutely every card they want :S

Paying to negate time @ 5 mil isn't tooo bad i guess.


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ill edit for the guy above . if the quest is hidden promote people to share wht they know sherlock . eventually one dude know how to do it , and he goes and tell guido how to make it , guido goes and tell maria about , maria have 3 brothers so 3 more knows it the chains keep on .
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wolfsdhorm wrote:
Skye wrote:
Quests are meant to be a challenge. They are not meant to be easy.
This suggestion is not in any way related to "how troublesome" a quest is.

It is for the player to decide if they are willing to do a quest. Without effort, there is no reward. That is not an issue in any of the suggestions you have brought up the "trouble" of the quest. Stop it.


No offence, Skye, but i said "Who would want to do a quest if it's HIDDEN. . .". I understand it is for the player to chose to do the quest or not, and I understand that quests are not supposed to be easy. But if it's hidden then why go out and look for it in the 1st place? Just so you can have a pass that gives you only 1 free MvP with-in a 10-20 time span unless you have a voucher? But then what's the point in the pass if that voucher negates making the MvP free? Here's a suggestion i just came up with. Use any MvP list you choose, all, specific, or even only the ones in the current MvP room. Instead of having to pay for all of them unless you have a pass and instead of the time wait, the pass allows you to get a special item, like maybe a droped item that is REALLY hard to get(i.e. certain cards, note: not directly saying for cards). And instead of a 10-20 min wait why not a 0-20 minture wait depending on the MvP. Like if it's a Doppelganger, why not have them wait for 0-5 minutes to get another one to kill? There is not point in a pass that gives free MvP if you use a voucher to "kill" the 10-20 minute wait and using the voucher makes the pass's effect for a free MvP totally useless.


Alright, lemme fix this giant word block -

1. The Quest is a challenge because that pass is Extremely useful while summoning an Mvp.

2. The pass (Not Voucher) is not just a 1 (ONE) time deal, it's until you NPC it by mistake cause yer selling lootz.

3. As for the Voucher, you'll slowly realize how painful to the pocket using a Voucher is when you gather up around 60 or so and plan to spam whichever rare you're hunting.

And finally,

4. The waiting time on MVP's is cycled at 15-20 minutes because it'll cut down A Lot of issues regarding cards on this server.
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As Jay said the pass isn't a one time deal it is like the luxurious keycard. You can keep using it till you npc. Once you do that you're screwed....


Vouchers cost you money to summon mvp's because you bypass the waiting period. Plus with only 10 rooms being available its only fair if you hog a room you should pay. Also paying will in turn allow mobs to drop zeny again because your paying to summon a mvp instead of getting them for free like now. Finally saving up vouchers and zeny will take time, and knowing ppl on this server they will wait for a dbl drop day and a stick of gum to use their vouchers.

The quest will have to begin with someone leaking the info as to where the first post is located. Or the GM's can be nice and put the first post in Prontera that gives a hint to the location of the next post.

For example the first post will say something like.....

"My skull feels like a axe split it in half"

If you know anything about the RO world you pretty much know where this location is. So you would go to Nif and look around the building with a skull getting split by a axe, for the post or a cell that you can click on, which will in turn tell you your next clue as to where to go.

"Caution the mining cart's are full N36 ready for departure"

With that hint, people know Einbech is the mining center, so you will look around for the second part of that clue in that city. N36 happens to be a train, and the caution happens to be tape at the end of the train which you will find your next clue.

So on and so on, for about 50 clues. As you go on the clues will get harder to figure out depending on how the GM's word it. To start the quest all you would need is 25m in zeny. At the end of the quest it would broadcast " 'Player' has just completed the MVP Arena Pass Quest." Then every few months if the GM's wish they can change the clues and locations around to spice things up a bit.
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Yeah 5 mil doesn't seem that bad but it will add up very very quickly Smile maybe 10m though Surprised
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i know that the pass is not for only one Free Mvp. But it's only 1 free MvP per 10-20min...and yea i know it's to cut down on people farming for money but thats all some people can do to even try and be as good PvP and WoE people as SOS, RDH, and the other guilds that are in the top 5. Besides. People will eventually find another way to farm for money. IDK what it would be but there's always people doing what they can to earn money especially if their favorite way(i.e. MvP room) is making them have to pay. And about the Guides. Yea one person can do the quest and put up a guide for it. But then again there are some people who don't like forums. So not EVERYONE is gonna go onto the forums to find out what to do or where to go for the quest.
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wolfsdhorm wrote:
i know that the pass is not for only one Free Mvp. But it's only 1 free MvP per 10-20min...and yea i know it's to cut down on people farming for money but thats all some people can do to even try and be as good PvP and WoE people as SOS, RDH, and the other guilds that are in the top 5. Besides. People will eventually find another way to farm for money. IDK what it would be but there's always people doing what they can to earn money especially if their favorite way(i.e. MvP room) is making them have to pay. And about the Guides. Yea one person can do the quest and put up a guide for it. But then again there are some people who don't like forums. So not EVERYONE is gonna go onto the forums to find out what to do or where to go for the quest.

You didn't say anything relevant to the current discussion.
Summary of your post:
1) You understand what the pass is.
2) People look up to "Big Guilds" in PvP and WoE and want to get to that level.
3) People like money and are creative.
4) Guides exist, but not everyone uses them.

You seem to be under the impression that people are incapable of doing the quests as they are intended to be done. Regardless, that concern not relevant to this thread's point.

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As for you, Bubbaknoxz: Great ideas for quest hints. Using the terrain is an excellent way to get players to use their brains. As I was reading that, I had to sit back for a moment to think about where the "Axe splitting" location was (I don't visit Nifleheim enough). If I were to do that quest, i'd be looking around for a little bit! =) A good challenge! (I think we'd definitely have at least one location per city for those posts!). Do you have any thoughts on what NPC it could be?

As i've said, I like how this entire idea is coming together gradually. =) The more thought that's put in (hopefully), the better and more acceptable it will be for everyone.
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Well for the sprite of the npc, how about [858] its a small post, which can be used for the first sign. After that you can use [111] which gives it a more hidden appeal, because its a hidden npc =).


The clues can go anywhere it doesn't only have to stay in towns, you can put it in dungeons as well. To be honest this idea stems from another server I have played on, and it was a success. To make people think and what not is what makes this quest so much fun and frustrating all at the same time lol.

For the item itself that you receive at the end of the quest ,it would most likely look like a Bio-lab pass that the player must have equipped in order to use. The pass can not be traded and is acct bound.
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Well for the sprite of the npc, how about [858] its a small post, which can be used for the first sign. After that you can use [111] which gives it a more hidden appeal, because its a hidden npc =).


The clues can go anywhere it doesn't only have to stay in towns, you can put it in dungeons as well. To be honest this idea stems from another server I have played on, and it was a success. To make people think and what not is what makes this quest so much fun and frustrating all at the same time lol.

For the item itself that you receive at the end of the quest ,it would most likely look like a Bio-lab pass that the player must have equipped in order to use. The pass can not be traded and is acct bound.


I dispised looking for that hidden sign post.. Now more people can too, yay~
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NightShade wrote:
Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Well for the sprite of the npc, how about [858] its a small post, which can be used for the first sign. After that you can use [111] which gives it a more hidden appeal, because its a hidden npc =).


The clues can go anywhere it doesn't only have to stay in towns, you can put it in dungeons as well. To be honest this idea stems from another server I have played on, and it was a success. To make people think and what not is what makes this quest so much fun and frustrating all at the same time lol.

For the item itself that you receive at the end of the quest ,it would most likely look like a Bio-lab pass that the player must have equipped in order to use. The pass can not be traded and is acct bound.


I dispised looking for that hidden sign post.. Now more people can too, yay~


lol jay! ebil pple dies ebil
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