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Bubbaknoxz



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Does anyone think having 255 max stats as being useful? This is one of the few mid rates I played on where 255 max stats is still in effect, most of the others I know switched to 200 max or 150 max because it kills too many stat points.

So my question is, I know we use 255 because its there, but is it really useful?


For me I don't see it as being useful to anyone.
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I wouldn't mind a trial run where all stats are lowered to 200 max. I'm find with 255 cause it allows for more MATK on my part but it'd be interesting to see what it'd be like with 200 as a max stat.
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i'm perfectly fine with being ridiculously over powered in strength thank you lol. nah honestly i dont have a prob with the stats that high. its a good balance. If it were lowered then i think people would have more probs then they think. a trial suggestion hmmm...if luzz and them did do this i'd hope it would be "optional" to patch that cause loosing that many stat points might hurt more than help.
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there just be practically no diferences in build , everyone with the same stats .
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Does anyone think having 255 max stats as being useful? This is one of the few mid rates I played on where 255 max stats is still in effect, most of the others I know switched to 200 max or 150 max because it kills too many stat points.

So my question is, I know we use 255 because its there, but is it really useful?


For me I don't see it as being useful to anyone.


If people want to "waste" their stat points, what the hell difference does it make to you? No reason to change it just because it "isn't useful (to you)".
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GlitchyVirus wrote:
Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Does anyone think having 255 max stats as being useful? This is one of the few mid rates I played on where 255 max stats is still in effect, most of the others I know switched to 200 max or 150 max because it kills too many stat points.

So my question is, I know we use 255 because its there, but is it really useful?


For me I don't see it as being useful to anyone.


If people want to "waste" their stat points, what the hell difference does it make to you? No reason to change it just because it "isn't useful (to you)".


agreed
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Trial run would be alright i guess. But yeah as glitch said, if 255 is pointless, why not just have your stats at 200 then?

255 isnt that pointless. 200 on a stat just gives more reason to pump vit. More vit means more pwnage from thanas. This would advantage thana users more then the average player? Without having 255 on a stat, some people might have to waste remaining stats on something they dont want.

Tedious subject here for me. I like havin' 255 vit :S
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i like my dex up the 200 D:
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I actually use 255 in stats for some of my characters.

I don't understand the point of this idea. o_O
To lower the damage some classes can do?
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the server is fine the way it is, what next u wanna change? admin?

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i think 255 is the best so far. mostly because it will lower people damage, and people ( in various occasions ) like having 255 vit, int, and also 255 str!

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Now that I am back from my hiatus of MW2 let me respond to all these...

GlitchyVirus wrote:
If people want to "waste" their stat points, what the hell difference does it make to you? No reason to change it just because it "isn't useful (to you)".


Let me try to reiterate myself, these stat points aren't even setup properly, on this 255 stat point system you can only max out 1 area. That's not useful to certain builds that you find common in low rate servers. In those server you can have 99 max stats and be capable of maxing out 2 stats for certain, and have a good build still, especially Snipers who are known for a fact to run 2 max stat attributes. So that answers your usefulness comment. In a 255 rate server you should be able to max about 3 stats with the given bonuses.


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Trial run would be alright i guess. But yeah as glitch said, if 255 is pointless, why not just have your stats at 200 then?

255 isnt that pointless. 200 on a stat just gives more reason to pump vit. More vit means more pwnage from thanas. This would advantage thana users more then the average player? Without having 255 on a stat, some people might have to waste remaining stats on something they dont want.

Tedious subject here for me. I like havin' 255 vit :S


Most of my stats hover around 200 depending on the build. On a 200 stat/ 255 max lvl server with Thanas available you grow use to the idea of build fairly quickly, I have dealt with a server full of Thana users you knew how to play it smart, or you were screwed.


Zebruh wrote:
I actually use 255 in stats for some of my characters.

I don't understand the point of this idea. o_O
To lower the damage some classes can do?


This won't lower dmg by the amount you see it, your probably thinking you'll lose 900 attk, when you wont, it'll just level the amount needed to get the dmg. instead of doing 50K BB's you'll instead do 44-46k BB's. Same with all the other classes basically. You'll lose about 3-6k dmg at most going from 255 to 200.


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the server is fine the way it is, what next u wanna change? admin?

- back on question.
i think 255 is the best so far. mostly because it will lower people damage, and people ( in various occasions ) like having 255 vit, int, and also 255 str!


Your comment is basically answered in the above. Nothing changes with having a 200 max stat server, except for minor things. I.e being able to max stats in more that one stat like you can do in low rates and other mid rates. Hell you can do that with 255, the admins just have to add more stat points so you can max 2/3 and be 1/2 way to maxing out your third/fourth so 255/ 255/ 122/ 1/ 1/ 1 or 255/ 255/ 255/ 122/ 1/ 1. Do you get what I am saying?

If not I'll try to dumb it out (not an insult) on a low rate you can do the following, 99/ 99/ 50/ 1/ 1/ 1 with your stats, here you can only do 255/ 253/ 12/ 1/ 1/ 1. Your missing a lot of stats hence why I ask do people find this useful, because to be honest your missing stats.
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Actually, Bubba, I don't know what the Hell you're trying to do.
Are you trying to lower the maximum stats?
Increase them?
Decrease/increase the amount of points required to increase a stat?
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Zebruh wrote:
Actually, Bubba, I don't know what the Hell you're trying to do.
Are you trying to lower the maximum stats?
Increase them?
Decrease/increase the amount of points required to increase a stat?


Im trying to get the stats to be on par with how they are supposed to mirror a 99 rate server. Right now we are missing stats, and if we are going to be missing stats I rather deal with 200 max than lose out with 255 stats.
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But since the required amount of points to meet a certain stat is increase, on a set path already scaled to max level 99, You may have to just assume that the point(s) that you don't get to spend are based on fractions that aren't problems in a lower-rate server.

The scaling is fine, it's just that they're more noticeable now.
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:

Let me try to reiterate myself, these stat points aren't even setup properly, on this 255 stat point system you can only max out 1 area. .


Sorry to say bubba, but...

You said you can only max out one stat here. You can get 2 stats to 255, and then maybe a stat to like 20 or 30 i believe?

On a low rate, iRO for example, one of my 99 characters had 99 int, 99 dex, and 30 vit.

They are pretty even, or "mirror like" if you ask me.

I need to think more about this, i am almost certain there would be a down fall to this >:O

And again, i like 255 vit :S Pwning healz' ftw >:O
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