[dragonbug]

its not about the ZENNY guys jesus. Its about Player mentality. the zenny will always be there and it needs to be. New players can waltz into reign and not be able to make a damn dime just cause you guys are oh so amazingly opinionated. Player mentality is what makes these cards and weapons and everything over priced. If someone sells a moonlight flower for 30 mill and i sell mine for 10 guess who wins, me. Now if that happens enough then that guy selling the 30 mil might just drop his down and be like, ok...well if i really need to sell this then ill drop it. Cause either way even if you sell it for 30k your MAKING A PROFIT. its all about greed. And dont get me wrong, money is nice to have. im not disputing that. But saying we need to cut zenny from monsters is ridiculous. Hell zebruh said it in one of the post i was on.

"Who decides how much cards are worth..the players" so inflation can only be stopped if everyone just stopped and weighed out the pros and cons of selling something. Human nature wants us to make money go BIG BIG BIG. but if you think about it, its a game.its in game money..this game is supposed to be enjoyable and to do that you have to be kind and courteous to others. hell i started my own guild and have given them millions of zenny to start off with, and complete gear sets just because i dont use them. I had them sitting around in storage and their collecting digital dust.

And im sure the same could be said about you guys and possible some of the cards you have too. I understand the "collector" mentality but thats a selfish reason to hold on to a lot of something for your own gain. I personally give give give on this server and if you dont believe me then ask Luzz. so let the comments flow in. positive negative, whatever. just adding my 2 cents
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[Bubbaknoxz]

Zeny is a major factor in pricing, not only greed. Put it like this, if I can crack out 50m a day, that means you can crack 50m a day. Which equates to 1gc per day, times 7 days = 7gc's. If Gc's are easy to get via zeny, than zeny equal the route to inflation do to its decline in value. If one value goes down than the other value being cost goes up to even out the spectrum.



You can't blame greed when basic economics prove this, its supply and demand. I know you can get GC's with ease, which equates to me charging more for the item you seek. Because the item is harder to get than the zeny/gc's in of themselves.
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[JDUB]

find us an article, research paper, or even a wikipedia page backing up your claims, and then we will all believe you.

[dragonbug]

[JDUB]

[dragonbug]

sigh. im tired of arguing over whos right and what not ill wait for a gm to show up and post their opinions.
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[JDUB]

[dragonbug]

[Glenfiddich]

[Zebruh]

[Maico]

[XDoggStrafe]

Thank you JDUB, someone else who actually knows that the zeny constantly being created and farmed is what's really killing the economy. I say something like a new NPC that requires zeny to run itself would work, even if it didn't spawn mvps or anything like that. Maybe something like a capped limit of amount of zeny you could hold, and have in the bank that's lower than what we already have set, that alone would probably help with the inflation created already by the mass amount of zeny floating about the server. Another idea would be adding a new npc that could convert Zeny to refine an armor, and the higher it goes, the higher the price of zeny needed. That's yet another way to permanently make zeny disappear for now.
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[marine]

Why gota to disapear the zeny ... i mean i buy the gcs by zeny and lot of pple including lot of here did and does till now . hipocrits .
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[JDUB]

People are rational, not greedy. Most rational people will not sell their valuables for significantly less than the market price, and most rational people will not buy something that is significantly more than the market price. The whole study of economics in general are based on the fact that human are rational beings and their behavior can be predicted.

The high price in reignRO is a direct result of too much zeny in the pool, not b/c everyone lusts for zeny in their bank. Once zeny becomes a unless currency due to inflation, people will find alternative currency to trade with, in our case GC. for more information, read about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation , which happened to German in post WWI and Hungary in post WWII periods. Quote "The main cause of hyperinflation is a massive and rapid increase in the amount of money, which is not supported by growth in the output of goods and services."

XDoggStrafe, can you post again in the suggestion thread on the armor refining suggestion? It's a good idea b/c +bonus on armor actually gives very little advantage, and will not affect the server balance too much. (well except for +10 shields for pally... but each +1 on armor refine only adds roughly 0.6~0.7% on dmg reduction)

and no, I probably don't know more about the GMs on macroeconomics, since luzz is a consultant of some sorts. I was just feeding teh troll. I am 21, majoring in nanotechnology engineering and minor in management science.

[XDoggStrafe]