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bah
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There are enough players in this server for a good/great WoE competition but the number of castles opened during War of Emperium is really high.
10 castles are opened dunring WoE, of this casles only 3 are defended, and of this 3 castles only 2 of them are defended by a good amount of ppl. The other castle is jsut defended by 2 guys and they keep it just because it 1 guy rushing against them. The other 7 castles are beign "lols breaked"(term used when breaking undefended castles and that wont be defended).
This means that there should be only 2 castles opened so that guilds actually start making GvG's and the WoE competition grows.
Right now WoE competition is bad since if you want a castle you just avoid the 2 guilds defending and "lol break" the others.
WoE was made for GvG's and competition, organization, teamwork. With the Woe system used right now not a thing mentioned above can be posible.
Suggestion: During WoE only 2 castles opened, which ones w/e(better ift hey are in the same town)
Also why not making a rotation system
Example
Week 1:
Monday(Aldebaran castles Nuenber-Rothenburg)
Wendsday (Prontera castles Kriemhild-Fad)
Saturday( WoE SE Rachel Horn)
Week 2:
Monday: (Geffen castles Eeyol-Mers)
Weds (Payon castles Bright Arbor-Bamboo)
Saturday ( WoE SE Yuno Himin)
Then it starts Week 1 again.
WoE SE=Second Edition which are the big castles thats why only 1 castle opened in this time.
Opinions.
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Wed May 11, 2011 3:32 am |
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jogradz1225
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what about their economy? if few castles are open, means there are times they will be broken to many times and lose economy... if you lose economy, it will cost more to recover it. well, it will purge us of most of the zeny that's being stagnant in the server... but there will be less castle drops and they will be more rare resulting to inflation of prices on castle drops mainly essences and the like... _________________
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Wed May 11, 2011 8:05 am |
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i understand what you mean however it is already been discussed beefore with different possible solutions please check for similar post before randomly starting one and honestly if its just 2 castles then few people would really have a chance ... sos, m2m, the ducks and few other guilds could easily camp and destroy anyone _________________ If you need to get ahold of me:
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Wed May 11, 2011 11:19 am |
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tehdarke
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uhhhhhhh i cant remember but luzz had a reason on y we didnt do this before. It was a really good reason i just wish i would have remembered it x.x sorreh
maybe luzz will post on it ! _________________
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Wed May 11, 2011 12:58 pm |
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Either way, there are quite a few people in Yuno castles on Wednesday nights and Alde/Payon is always 50/50 with population. Unless your talking about Monday mornings WoE population only, I have no idea where your getting that there are not enough people for WoE.
In Alde I see as many breaks per WoE as I see in Payon their about even. I hate to burst your bubble, but no not all castles are defended by 2people
Here are the Saturday WoE crowds
SoS
Rising Blaze
Retribution
Wings of Fate
M2M
KoF
Martyrs
DNA
These guilds all hold castles with far more than 2 people, so I dont know where your getting that crazy idea either.
With Yuno, you have a style 2.0 castle system which most people hate because 2.0 is retarded, and on top of that Pront castles are far more valuable. Now I still see a ton of breaks going on in Yuno, and I know that people do defend their castles there; Sure its not of the same magnitude of Pront, but if I had to number it I would say its 60/40 with Yuno being the 40 Pront being the 60.
And Monday morning woe? screw that white noise, I, like most sane people, value as much of my sleep as I can get, you people can all have / fight for it.
ALSO LETS NOT FORGET
This is a 30-50 pop server during any WoE times at best, the only reason we see reaches of 150+ depends on how long it has been since the last server reset, and how many people have 20 vendors in Payon. If we get some more people, then I dont think the system needs to change. (Not that it does right now anyways, but you get my point I hope.)
And as said by countless people above me, Luzz denied this idea long ago when it was submitted it for riggi- I mean "enhancing" the WoE system.
Now before you proceed to try and destroy this post, lemme go ahead and psychically guess that your posting this thread because you don't like how Monday WoE's go and that's the only one you can attend? If you went to Wednesday or Saturday WoE's, I dont think you would be posting the way you did, because I know every guild with a flag in Prontera has "more than 2 people" to defend on those nights. Granted some guilds are smaller, but thats all your trying to set out to do here. Punish smaller guilds by making them unable to get anything, and increasing the rare-ness and prices of essences. _________________
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Wed May 11, 2011 3:11 pm |
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i think luzz already decided on doing this with like 5 castles only per woe..basically 1 town at a time..
we were just waiting for it to be implemented..along with the healing item issue. _________________ RIP Xander -April 9th, 2010- Love you and miss you daily.
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Thu May 12, 2011 6:43 am |
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I find it retarded how you say that only few guilds will have the chance of getting a castle. Either they get it because they know how to play during woe and they diserve it or there is just a low population in server which means there should just be opened a low amount of castles. Also someone said that guilds defend with more than 2 ppl so if they have a good amount of ppl to defend they MUST also have a good amount of ppl to attack.
I dont know how you say I only do mondays woe; I have a life and I care way lot more about my sleep than a retarded woe at like 4 AM with no competition.
This suggestion was made for creating a good woe competition and start making guilds working as a team gvging etc. But if you guys say that no well its you who either are scared of fighting or dont want server's WoE to grow up.
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Sun May 15, 2011 9:08 pm |
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ewwwww i hope its not only 5 -_- ill never get a castle that way _________________
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Mon May 16, 2011 3:34 am |
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bah wrote: | I find it retarded how you say that only few guilds will have the chance of getting a castle. Either they get it because they know how to play during woe and they diserve it or there is just a low population in server which means there should just be opened a low amount of castles. Also someone said that guilds defend with more than 2 ppl so if they have a good amount of ppl to defend they MUST also have a good amount of ppl to attack. |
I usually don't touch WoE threads, but I always pay attention, and I can say that I fail to see your point. None of what you said justifies two castles at a time.
bah wrote: | I dont know how you say I only do mondays woe; I have a life and I care way lot more about my sleep than a retarded woe at like 4 AM with no competition. |
So you don't attend that WoE either, but neither does he. You have disregarded all points made in regards to the other two WoE times.
bah wrote: | This suggestion was made for creating a good woe competition and start making guilds working as a team gvging etc. |
I fail to see how.
bah wrote: | But if you guys say that no well its you who either are scared of fighting or dont want server's WoE to grow up. |
You have either insulted other players or given a point without any factual support. This isn't productive. _________________
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Mon May 16, 2011 3:46 am |
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Skye wrote: | bah wrote: | I find it retarded how you say that only few guilds will have the chance of getting a castle. Either they get it because they know how to play during woe and they diserve it or there is just a low population in server which means there should just be opened a low amount of castles. Also someone said that guilds defend with more than 2 ppl so if they have a good amount of ppl to defend they MUST also have a good amount of ppl to attack. |
I usually don't touch WoE threads, but I always pay attention, and I can say that I fail to see your point. None of what you said justifies two castles at a time.
bah wrote: | I dont know how you say I only do mondays woe; I have a life and I care way lot more about my sleep than a retarded woe at like 4 AM with no competition. |
So you don't attend that WoE either, but neither does he. You have disregarded all points made in regards to the other two WoE times.
bah wrote: | This suggestion was made for creating a good woe competition and start making guilds working as a team gvging etc. |
I fail to see how.
bah wrote: | But if you guys say that no well its you who either are scared of fighting or dont want server's WoE to grow up. |
You have either insulted other players or given a point without any factual support. This isn't productive. |
If you dont see the points I would dare to say you are not experienced doing woe.also Lol at your comments. Not even gonna continue in this thread since I talked with ppl and yes they confirmed my ideas that everyone want easy castles and dont wanna fight for them.But well thats why woe competition isnt that great.
You can close thread now. |
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Thu May 19, 2011 2:18 am |
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Closed.
btw i liked the idea. _________________
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Thu May 19, 2011 6:32 am |
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bah wrote: | I find it retarded how you say that only few guilds will have the chance of getting a castle. Either they get it because they know how to play during woe and they diserve it or there is just a low population in server which means there should just be opened a low amount of castles. Also someone said that guilds defend with more than 2 ppl so if they have a good amount of ppl to defend they MUST also have a good amount of ppl to attack.
I dont know how you say I only do mondays woe; I have a life and I care way lot more about my sleep than a retarded woe at like 4 AM with no competition.
This suggestion was made for creating a good woe competition and start making guilds working as a team gvging etc. But if you guys say that no well its you who either are scared of fighting or dont want server's WoE to grow up.
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no, our woe is not retarded... see this is what happens when someone gets greedy for castles... by reducing the number of castles open at a time, you're suggesting that only one or two guilds hold all castles at a time... know what i mean? if a guild that can defend really well and attack really well gets a hold of castles... how will other guilds measure up? by reducing the number of castles open you're making the woe retarded, its not healthy competition because we do not have two guilds only... there are lots of guilds in our server and if they all compete for one or two castles, how many do you think will make it in pre emp if at the entrance they will kill each other already? wont it be more beneficial for the castle holder if enemies fight amongst themselves? while they are intact and ready to kill anyone that would be lucky to enter the emp room... that's why Luzz made woe to open 10 castles per woe to accommodate diversity...
look at it at a bigger picture, you're missing out ^_^
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some people refuse to expand their guild by pirating other guild's guild members... and some do not wish to join other guilds because they are friends with the Guild Leader of their guild, if you did not see this, you're just power hungry and not concerned about how to enhance woe... cuz what you will do is when a guild owns the castle for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnngggggggggggggg time... you'll join that guild and leave your guild that can't break emps... no loyalty... just power hungry ^_^ _________________
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Thu May 19, 2011 8:59 am |
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jogradz1225 wrote: | bah wrote: | I find it retarded how you say that only few guilds will have the chance of getting a castle. Either they get it because they know how to play during woe and they diserve it or there is just a low population in server which means there should just be opened a low amount of castles. Also someone said that guilds defend with more than 2 ppl so if they have a good amount of ppl to defend they MUST also have a good amount of ppl to attack.
I dont know how you say I only do mondays woe; I have a life and I care way lot more about my sleep than a retarded woe at like 4 AM with no competition.
This suggestion was made for creating a good woe competition and start making guilds working as a team gvging etc. But if you guys say that no well its you who either are scared of fighting or dont want server's WoE to grow up.
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no, our woe is not retarded... see this is what happens when someone gets greedy for castles... by reducing the number of castles open at a time, you're suggesting that only one or two guilds hold all castles at a time... know what i mean? if a guild that can defend really well and attack really well gets a hold of castles... how will other guilds measure up? by reducing the number of castles open you're making the woe retarded, its not healthy competition because we do not have two guilds only... there are lots of guilds in our server and if they all compete for one or two castles, how many do you think will make it in pre emp if at the entrance they will kill each other already? wont it be more beneficial for the castle holder if enemies fight amongst themselves? while they are intact and ready to kill anyone that would be lucky to enter the emp room... that's why Luzz made woe to open 10 castles per woe to accommodate diversity...
look at it at a bigger picture, you're missing out ^_^
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some people refuse to expand their guild by pirating other guild's guild members... and some do not wish to join other guilds because they are friends with the Guild Leader of their guild, if you did not see this, you're just power hungry and not concerned about how to enhance woe... cuz what you will do is when a guild owns the castle for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnngggggggggggggg time... you'll join that guild and leave your guild that can't break emps... no loyalty... just power hungry ^_^ |
sry to tell you this, but you know nothing about woe.
no offense tho.
just for people stop talking about luzz, here is luzz proposal.
http://www.reignonline.net/viewtopic.php?t=2616 _________________
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Thu May 19, 2011 3:02 pm |
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o.o ok I woe. If your problem is compotition or its too boring..... to all those who say this: y not go atk a castle and make compotition? o.o easy fix? _________________
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Thu May 19, 2011 6:06 pm |
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tehdarke wrote: | o.o ok I woe. If your problem is compotition or its too boring..... to all those who say this: y not go atk a castle and make compotition? o.o easy fix? |
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