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This is the be all and end all thread concerning Donation items. Post your ideas in this thread along with reasoning behind it. Follow this guild line for your suggestion.
Item Name
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Stats
Where does it go
Weight
Defense
Price
Classes that can wear it
Elemental prop
Sprite to use, item image.
Reasoning why this item should be put in the Donation NPC...
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Purple Heart Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, increase the effectiveness of Sanc, Potion Pitcher and Heal by 10%-15%.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Royal Valk Helm, Royal Valk helm
This helm will help cause the price of Basco cards to drop somewhat hopefully to around 20 GC's instead of the 35+ GC's it cost now. This also gives a helm to support classes which currently do not have a helm in the NPC.
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For Consumables its basically the same thing, try to explain it as best you can. More likely those will go into a Vote NPC but this thread can be used for that.
When you respond to this thread you must give a suggestion of your own. If you already did, then you can defend your idea. No bullshit drama causing post will be allowed. Once I see drama I will ask the Admin to delete your post. Respectable debates are allowed and welcomed.
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Now onto my suggestions
Helm of Tranquility
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, immunity to the following status, Stun, Stone Curse, Silence, Sleep.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Peaceful Valk Helm, Peaceful Valk Helm
This helm is used to cause the price of Gemini cards to drop. I mean seriously it went from 40m to 100m for 1 card in a period of a year. 3 GC's for a none MVP card is crazy. This helm may just cause the price to go to 15m.
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Glasses of Sight
Slots:1
Enables users to detect hidden enemies, No bonus stats given
Mid Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 10 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Red glasses, Red glasses
The price of Maya P now ranges from 25gc-35gc+. Now with the addition of this item prices can become no more than 15gc for a Maya P card.
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Hero Boots
Slots: 1
Increase Movement Speed.
Maximum HP and SP + 8%
SP Recovery + 10%, MDEF + 5
Foot Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Sleips, Sleips
I have no reason for this one. I just wanted to see a boot donation finally, that are not Sleips. And I hate the fact that all the good slotted shoes cant be worn by non rebirth chars.
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Most of my ideas are around the idea to cut card prices down. Hopefully everyone else sees it that way as well. I will have more later this week hopefully.
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| Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:49 am |
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | Now onto my suggestions
Helm of Tranquility
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, immunity to the following status, Stun, Stone Curse, Silence, Sleep.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Peaceful Valk Helm, Peaceful Valk Helm
This helm is used to cause the price of Gemini cards to drop. I mean seriously it went from 40m to 100m for 1 card in a period of a year. 3 GC's for a none MVP card is crazy. This helm may just cause the price to go to 15m.
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Glasses of Sight
Slots:1
Enables users to detect hidden enemies, No bonus stats given
Mid Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 10 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Red glasses, Red glasses
The price of Maya P now ranges from 25gc-35gc+. Now with the addition of this item prices can become no more than 15gc for a Maya P card. |
No.... If these are put in, then it makes status cards useless, and makes maya purple useless, while not giving up a head gear slot, and the first helm gives up use of (2 or 3) Head gear slots to get full immunity to some status effects...
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| Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:11 am |
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | Now onto my suggestions
Helm of Tranquility
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, immunity to the following status, Stun, Stone Curse, Silence, Sleep.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
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Peaceful Valk Helm, Peaceful Valk Helm
This helm is used to cause the price of Gemini cards to drop. I mean seriously it went from 40m to 100m for 1 card in a period of a year. 3 GC's for a none MVP card is crazy. This helm may just cause the price to go to 15m.
Glasses of Sight
Slots:1
Enables users to detect hidden enemies, No bonus stats given
Mid Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 10 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Red glasses, Red glasses
The price of Maya P now ranges from 25gc-35gc+. Now with the addition of this item prices can become no more than 15gc for a Maya P card. |
- i do not agree with these item coz' it can reduce the enjoyments in this server.
- player will be lazy to hunt these card (refer to above item description) such as MayaP..and they will farm money as they can to buy GC and the item.
- this also can reduce the advantage of skills for some character like SinX (cloaking/hiden)..
for me, above item can cause some card lost their function and useless to hunt it. the card selection is important to build strong character and it can be a strategy for WoE/PVP.
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Hero Boots
Slots: 1
Increase Movement Speed.
Maximum HP and SP + 8%
SP Recovery + 10%, MDEF + 5
Foot Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Sleips, Sleips
I have no reason for this one. I just wanted to see a boot donation finally, that are not Sleips. And I hate the fact that all the good slotted shoes cant be worn by non rebirth chars. |
for this, i agree coz' we just have Sleip for shoes.
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Helm of Haste
Slots: 0
When hit by a enemy, there is a (? 2-5? )% chance to autocast level 10 Increase Agi on yourself.
Middle
Weight: 10
Defense given: 1
Price: 5 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Reasoning: It might not be useful for WoE (Or it could be you never know) but I had this one after realizing that the Moonlight Flower Hats (Event from a while back) gave out increase agi Level 1 whenever you hit an enemy.
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Question, will the boots stack even more speed than Sleips and Peco do?
IE:
LK or Pally = Sleips + Peco Mount + Peco Wings/Skateboard = tons of speed
Where as all other classes have
Sleips + Peco wings / Skateboard = slow as molasses in comparison to LK's.
Idk the exact amount of speed, but Luzz does because we talked about this well over 6 months ago, but its based on a percentage, what kind of percentage are you thinking about? Same as Sleip; lower than Sleip; higher than Sleip considering its not the same HP/SP Bonus?
As for the other head-gears, those card slots are a TERRIBLE IDEA, the intentions are well thought out but the implementations of the items are not. If your going to give out those insane bonuses, they need to lose all the card slots, no questions asked. It would be like having a current Helm/Wing/Glasses with 4/2 Slots pretty much.
I know its meant to be a nice way to get around needing the actual cards, but if you implement it that way, that means you can stack even more cards, as well as having all those bonuses, all at one time. The actual cards themselves will be obsolete and never be used again.
If the head-gears were all implemented with 0 card slots, they would be 100% fine and I would say full steam ahead.
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Same goes for the boots as well, we dont need a new version of Sleip with a Amon Ra Card being attachable.
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Didnt like them sorry bubba ):
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| Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:54 am |
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People READ I said if you want to respond you MUST give a suggestion. This thread is not about talking or discussing. Unless their is a debate and valid reasons are given.
"Dont like them", "Like Them", doesn't matter unless you have valid points and have given a suggestion of your own. Please follow the rules of this thread.
Those who responded to this thread, go edit your post with a donation or vote npc suggestion. Then I will respond, if you do not do that within 24hrs from this post (10:20am) I will have an Admin delete your post for not following the rules I put in place.
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | Sorry for no suggestion, but your boots is the only thing I could have thought of.
Question, will the boots stack even more speed than Sleips and Peco do?
IE:
LK or Pally = Sleips + Peco Mount + Peco Wings/Skateboard = tons of speed
Where as all other classes have
Sleips + Peco wings / Skateboard = slow as molasses in comparison to LK's.
Idk the exact amount of speed, but Luzz does because we talked about this well over 6 months ago, but its based on a percentage, what kind of percentage are you thinking about? Same as Sleip; lower than Sleip; higher than Sleip considering its not the same HP/SP Bonus?
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I will only respond to your question concerning the boots...
The speed will be about the same as Sleips; or it can enable the skill Run(TK) and take away the walking speed all together.
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | Helm of Haste
Slots: 0
When hit by a enemy, there is a (? 2-5? )% chance to autocast level 10 Increase Agi on yourself.
Middle
Weight: 10
Defense given: 1
Price: 5 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Reasoning: It might not be useful for WoE (Or it could be you never know) but I had this one after realizing that the Moonlight Flower Hats (Event from a while back) gave out increase agi Level 1 whenever you hit an enemy.
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As for the other head-gears, those card slots are a TERRIBLE IDEA, the intentions are well thought out but the implementations of the items are not. If your going to give out those insane bonuses, they need to lose all the card slots, no questions asked. It would be like having a current Helm/Wing/Glasses with 4/2 Slots pretty much.
I know its meant to be a nice way to get around needing the actual cards, but if you implement it that way, that means you can stack even more cards, as well as having all those bonuses, all at one time. The actual cards themselves will be obsolete and never be used again.
If the head-gears were all implemented with 0 card slots, they would be 100% fine and I would say full steam ahead.
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Well currently you can achieve immunity to those above listed status by either going 3-4 Gems, 1 OH, 1 ED etc. My intention is to drop the prices. Something had to be suggested to do so. Now granted this helm doesn't give immunity to nastier ones like Curse, Freeze, FS, Coma, etc. You will only get some.
Now the other thing is we have to remember are people willing to give up their headgear they have now for it? Some may, some won't even think of it. I probably won't use it because I have gemini's and dont really need it.
Now with the slots argument, I am following the same guidelines as the current helms in the NPC. I don't believe this one will be to damaging because lets face it we have overpowering helms as it it on here. One was given free to the entire server a few months ago (Golden Shit hat) and it also had 2 slots.
For your suggestion, wouldn't the autocasting of AGI be harmful to yourself? It would stop you from attack if it keeps going off.
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Well currently you can achieve immunity to those above listed status by either going 3-4 Gems, 1 OH, 1 ED etc. My intention is to drop the prices. Something had to be suggested to do so. Now granted this helm doesn't give immunity to nastier ones like Curse, Freeze, FS, Coma, etc. You will only get some.
Now the other thing is we have to remember are people willing to give up their headgear they have now for it? Some may, some won't even think of it. I probably won't use it because I have gemini's and dont really need it.
Now with the slots argument, I am following the same guidelines as the current helms in the NPC. I don't believe this one will be to damaging because lets face it we have overpowering helms as it it on here. One was given free to the entire server a few months ago (Golden Shit hat) and it also had 2 slots.
For your suggestion, wouldn't the autocasting of AGI be harmful to yourself? It would stop you from attack if it keeps going off. |
Its not that it has 2 slots alone, its that you are replacing a card that uses a head-slot, AND giving it two extra head card slots, all at once.
2 Gemini's (By the helm) and 2 Kiels, all on one helmet. That leaves the wings and middle open. With the middle headgear, thats having 2 cards there, both Maya P from the item itself, then one more headgear card. Do you see what I mean by cards being too stack-able?
If there were no card slots, I think they would be fine, hell they could even use a cost reduction if they had no slots, but having a item that is the same as a card, while allowing you to put another card on that item is a bit broken.
As for my item:
For some reason you do not stop when you have it auto-cast from the Moonlight Flower Helmet, I can even show you what it does in-game if you like.
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Item Name
Slots
Stats
Where does it go
Weight
Defense
Price
Classes that can wear it
Elemental prop
Sprite to use, item image.
Reasoning why this item should be put in the Donation NPC...
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Ying Yang Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, Increase HP by 30% , But reduces Atk-Matk by 30%
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 6
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Neutral Valk Helm, Neutral Valk helm
This item will help those classes who need more health, such as support and and dont usually need to increase their damage or give more SP or HP. Its pure HP. This helm wont be over used, since most people like to keep high atk. But for Support classes : Clowns , High Priests , Soul Linker. ( Some of them ) It will help alot.
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It would just Help more. I used your quote to make it easier for me 
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Royal Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10/8, Enables the use of lvl 10 Bash.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 150
Defense given: 0
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Royal Valk Helm, Royal Valk helm
I personally love to use skill/buff hats, and right now the only item that enables bash is a Cutlus which not every class can use, at least with this hat every class will be able to use bash. (I just want more buff/skill hats ;-; )
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Item Name - All in One Ring
Slots - 0
Stats - +5 to all stats. Allows the use of level 1 sight, level 1 hiding (and whatever lvl 1 useful fun skills we can think of)
Where Does It Go? - Accessory Slot
Weight - W/E
Defense - +10 DEF
Price - W/E
Classes That Can Wear It - I dunno, make a weird whacked up combination of classes that can use?
Elemental Property - N/A
If i may give my opinion to some of your suggstions too Bubba =)
| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | Now onto my suggestions
Helm of Tranquility
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, immunity to the following status, Stun, Stone Curse, Silence, Sleep.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Peaceful Valk Helm, Peaceful Valk Helm
This helm is used to cause the price of Gemini cards to drop. I mean seriously it went from 40m to 100m for 1 card in a period of a year. 3 GC's for a none MVP card is crazy. This helm may just cause the price to go to 15m. |
I know this has been said, but it wont lower the cost of the card, it will make it useless. And yes i know "not everyone has GC's", but they pretty much do, only a small minority of players would then want geminis, too small a minority to reduce the cards to 15M, it would probably go lower.
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Glasses of Sight
Slots:1
Enables users to detect hidden enemies, No bonus stats given
Mid Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 10 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Red glasses, Red glasses
The price of Maya P now ranges from 25gc-35gc+. Now with the addition of this item prices can become no more than 15gc for a Maya P card. |
Same reasoning as my last one. The card will be useless.
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Hero Boots
Slots: 1
Increase Movement Speed.
Maximum HP and SP + 8%
SP Recovery + 10%, MDEF + 5
Foot Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.
Sleips, Sleips |
I quite like this one.
Overall, i just dont want to see reign with so many donations that cards arent needed anymore :S
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Glenn that is what the server really needs for prices to drop into a reasonable range?
For the first helm I believe people would much rather be attached to the Bloody Valk, Eternal, Holy, the Crowns to change anything. This gives another option to the NPC, while bringing card pricing down. 100m for 1 card is crazy. I could understand if they didn't drop from OCA's, but they do, and OCA's are easy to get.
It's up to the player to decide whether they find this helm useful. Take full damage, deal less damage, have my gear broken by people, etc. A person has a lot to decide when it comes to picking the right headgear. And as I said above it's not like Gemini's don't drop from OCA's.
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For the Glasses, I just saw someone today on @main going S> Maya P 60GC... Prices are going out of control for a Mini MVP that spawns every 15 mins in Guild Dungeon. Prices should drop for that card, hell I have 3 of them thats how easy they are to get. People shouldn't be charging 60gc for it.
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My goal is to bring prices down. People are probably joining here and leaving soon as they see card prices. We can't let that keep happening on this server.
As far as everyone's ideas for donates keep them pouring in.
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