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Bloody Branch Changes
Yes new BB script
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No leave it as is
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Yes new BB script & lower the price of BBs
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No leave it as is, Just lower the price of BBs
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This suggestion comes from doing multiple BB's during dbl drop days and the amount of Beezlebubs and other crap I've seen spawned.

Now with Beezlebub, some people don't even bother killing it, some try to and fail, and some have to dual client a secondary char just to kill it. My thing is why bother having it in the BB script when players are just going to ignore it and leave it for another player?

My suggestion is this, we need a custom BB script, if we are not getting a new MVP Arena and if some people ignore the MVPs that are being spawned.

Remove the MVP room MVPs first and foremost. If a player can get them for free in a room why do they have to spend their hard earned money on BBs that spawn the same crap? If you dont want to remove them simply make the BB's 5gc's for 100, or better yet make it a voting item. Those who bought in the past will NOT get a refund for BB's.

I look at it like this, in a 100 bb's about half (if not more) of them are spawns in the MVP room. Leaving less than half actually worth doing.

Now you can say we choose to buy them, but in all honesty people buy them during dbl drop days because multiple factors. 1, mvps in their spawn are usually on lock for the day. 2, you hardly ever get dbl drop days so you're mentally forced into buying them. 3, the hope to get a card that isnt something from the MVP room. I guarantee you look at the logs and more people buy BB's and donate on dbl drop days more than any other day of the year. Shouldn't the players get a hook up in the MVP's that spawn from BBs?
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So the idea being to make mvp cards even more easily available to those of you who spend hundreds of dollars on them?


No thanks. Deal with Eddga and the others as youre meant to.


Not to mention, prices lowered or lesser mvps removed or not, you guys will still continue to buy them regardless just as you always have. So from a business perspective, why give you the chance to spend less money and on top of that get more satisfaction just because one person cries wolf? Its a lose-lose situation for anyone who owns a server.

You already get a double drop day.

This is gonna go nowhere.
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I'd be happy with either/or. Removing the MVP Arena MVPs or just lowering the price a bit, doesn't have to be both. It does stink to spend 10 bucks on 100 BBs and have half of them come up duds from the MVP Arena.
Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:13 am
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Neo Genisis wrote:
I'd be happy with either/or. Removing the MVP Arena MVPs or just lowering the price a bit, doesn't have to be both. It does stink to spend 10 bucks on 100 BBs and have half of them come up duds from the MVP Arena.


Both Christmas Day and New Year's, I spent a total of 200 BBs and 2 Bubblegums. Guess what I got...?

1 Orc Hero
1 Eddga
1 Orc Archer
1 RSX
1 Isis
1 Giant Whisper

You CANNOT be serious. This CANNOT be fair. And don't give me that "You're just unlucky" crap. I was lucky to get the cards, I was unlucky that they were shitty MVPs. This can be avoided SO easily.

And you know what, yes, maybe it will put some rares into circulation faster. What does that mean? That prices will DROP. I mean come on, 150 for Kiel? 120 Tao? 60 Gloom? OMG 120mil for TG?!

This isn't just something that would be NICE to fix. This is a GENUINE PROBLEM. People are spending money for not only the chance to get cards, but to get the cards of the right MvPs, when they should only be paying for ONE chance. Doesn't that just sound RIDICULOUS? -.-
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GlitchyVirus wrote:
Neo Genisis wrote:
I'd be happy with either/or. Removing the MVP Arena MVPs or just lowering the price a bit, doesn't have to be both. It does stink to spend 10 bucks on 100 BBs and have half of them come up duds from the MVP Arena.


Both Christmas Day and New Year's, I spent a total of 200 BBs and 2 Bubblegums. Guess what I got...?

1 Orc Hero
1 Eddga
1 Orc Archer
1 RSX
1 Isis
1 Giant Whisper

You CANNOT be serious. This CANNOT be fair. And don't give me that "You're just unlucky" crap. I was lucky to get the cards, I was unlucky that they were shitty MVPs. This can be avoided SO easily.

And you know what, yes, maybe it will put some rares into circulation faster. What does that mean? That prices will DROP. I mean come on, 150 for Kiel? 120 Tao? 60 Gloom? OMG 120mil for TG?!

This isn't just something that would be NICE to fix. This is a GENUINE PROBLEM. People are spending money for not only the chance to get cards, but to get the cards of the right MvPs, when they should only be paying for ONE chance. Doesn't that just sound RIDICULOUS? -.-


I'm not sure if you were trying to flame me or Ryan there... you quoted me, but uh..I'm kinda on your side about this... o.o
Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:00 am
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Well I suggest take Beelzebub off because of people can do the card quest for it.
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magbolt123 wrote:
Well I suggest take Beelzebub off because of people can do the card quest for it.


im 100% agree with u..and
BB should not spawn mobs that have inside MVP Room..
Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:17 am
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Its a double edged sword, least taking out the MVP rooms.
we all know how..obsessive some people can be hunting/farming cards. the MVP room gives a chance for less enthusiastic people, or the one who simple dont have the time. BUT its annoying and ruins the point of collecting in the first place. i at least personally think its fun tracking monsters but eh, most people are just to lazy to even try.

but that said, i still gotta say take out MVP rooms.
no MVP rooms mean the "lame" spawns will have more value,which would solve it all. in the most part.

like Lady Tanee used to be a reasonably rare card. i literally found one on the ground yesterday.
wheres the fun anymore :[
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You spend the money, knowingly and fully aware that you can get a shitty card. Its not like youre being cheated out of your money. If you want to take the risk and spend it, then do so. But dont complain if your gamble didnt bear any fruit.

The word here is "Chance"

You take a chance by buying BB's in the first place, you take the risk and hope youll get the more popular MVPs, you take the chance of not getting a card, seeing as how cards drop at CHANCE in the first place.

Like I said, you already get fairly frequent double drop days and bubblegum, we have an MVP room which you dont take any appreciation for. Imagine how your gameplay would be affected if there wasnt, say, as many Phreeoni cards circulated since there was no MVP room?


Stop raging because you just drowned 80$ on cards you didnt want. How much more Silver Spoon fed would you like to be on this server?


You may as well just do away with the damn Branches in general and just start asking for MVP cards to be sold, they both will have the same results eventually.
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GlitchyVirus wrote:
Neo Genisis wrote:
I'd be happy with either/or. Removing the MVP Arena MVPs or just lowering the price a bit, doesn't have to be both. It does stink to spend 10 bucks on 100 BBs and have half of them come up duds from the MVP Arena.


Both Christmas Day and New Year's, I spent a total of 200 BBs and 2 Bubblegums. Guess what I got...?

1 Orc Hero
1 Eddga
1 Orc Archer
1 RSX
1 Isis
1 Giant Whisper

You CANNOT be serious. This CANNOT be fair. And don't give me that "You're just unlucky" crap. I was lucky to get the cards, I was unlucky that they were shitty MVPs. This can be avoided SO easily.

And you know what, yes, maybe it will put some rares into circulation faster. What does that mean? That prices will DROP. I mean come on, 150 for Kiel? 120 Tao? 60 Gloom? OMG 120mil for TG?!

This isn't just something that would be NICE to fix. This is a GENUINE PROBLEM. People are spending money for not only the chance to get cards, but to get the cards of the right MvPs, when they should only be paying for ONE chance. Doesn't that just sound RIDICULOUS? -.-


I sort of agree with all this. I used 400 BB on New Years day and i got a Vesper, Drake, and a Deviling.

I could have just spent the $40 on a mvp or 2 I really wanted but the fact is no one is ever selling (to me any way @_@) and I work too much to sit around and camp timers.

I'm not trying to complain really, I knew my chances were slim.
Buuuut
It would be nice if card prices had a way to drop i.e. taking mvp arena monsters out of BBs.

If more people could obtain the rarer mvps wouldn't that even the playing field a little bit?
I guess I don't care either way :0
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lol guys. the whole point is that Bloody branches are OPTIONAL you buy them. their not mandatory. so of course there is a risk involved.

ive had my fair share of good and bad times with bb's too. hell last double drop day i used 1000 and got 3 cards. an orc hero, an isis, and a gtb. did i bitch and moan. nope. cause even though i shelled out my OWN money at my own will, i still got a good card out of it. and theres been times i didnt get shit.

ive been playing for almost 3 years now and i STILL cant get a SK card, and yet ive managed to get 2 thanatos lol.

cards have a drop rate, deal with it.
now with that said. i do agree with bubba that its a bit dumb that there are mvps in the bb's that are also in the mvp room.
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You people should be grateful to get BB's at all. Many people have to do it the old fashioned way. Bloody branches are official, and the only reason for change whether any of you, Yes any of you like it or not, Is Greed. It's not fair I paid money for something I know has a chance to screw me that gives me a free mvp void of competition or stealing despite the fact that it is ludicrous that even such a thing exists. This is official. We have it at all. Why don't you just appreciate the opportunity.(Minus the fact that we have double drops and bubblegum)

Take my opinion how you will. I disagree with this 100 percent.

Edit: Regarding Prices.. I am unsure of that. IF AT ALL.... 5gc lower. That would be my only thought, but I still think things are good the way they are. It is part of the fun.

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Paragon wrote:
You people should be grateful to get BB's at all. Many people have to do it the old fashioned way. Bloody branches are official, and the only reason for change whether any of you, Yes any of you like it or not, Is Greed. It's not fair I paid money for something I know has a chance to screw me that gives me a free mvp void of competition or stealing despite the fact that it is ludicrous that even such a thing exists. This is official. We have it at all. Why don't you just appreciate the opportunity.(Minus the fact that we have double drops and bubblegum)

Take my opinion how you will. I disagree with this 100 percent.



agreed. as i said. deal with it folks. Razz
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magbolt123 wrote:
Well I suggest take Beelzebub off because of people can do the card quest for it.


nice idea, Axel.

i'd settle for this happening.
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Paragon wrote:
You people should be grateful to get BB's at all. Many people have to do it the old fashioned way. Bloody branches are official, and the only reason for change whether any of you, Yes any of you like it or not, Is Greed. It's not fair I paid money for something I know has a chance to screw me that gives me a free mvp void of competition or stealing despite the fact that it is ludicrous that even such a thing exists. This is official. We have it at all. Why don't you just appreciate the opportunity.(Minus the fact that we have double drops and bubblegum)

Take my opinion how you will. I disagree with this 100 percent.

Edit: Regarding Prices.. I am unsure of that. IF AT ALL.... 5gc lower. That would be my only thought, but I still think things are good the way they are. It is part of the fun.


however BB's are only fairly attainable by giving money, and bubblegum only attained by wining "some" events, by this i mean i played lot of events in the whole year and i only won 1 bublegum. The sugestions to make more items votable as "bublegums, field manuals" keep being rejected when having them would only help killing inflation (wht im getin at here?) well consider Bublegum and manuals be vote npc reward. Instead of giving 1 gum and one manual when u win an event, u could win 50-100 BB's.
This is no way unfair considering how most players are underage and they're spending their lunch money on BB's that gives them nothing.
I have played idk if 3-4 ro svs altho all of them had BB as donate like in here 10-5 bucks for 100 bb's u could always farm or win BB tru event and quest or goldroom.

Here's there's a quest i totally gave up on it , is on nifelheim u farm stufs and make dbs with like a 1% of getin a bb. (y i gave up, simple because i farmed 2 hours for ingredents and ended ith 2 branches)

eh.. yea remove the crappy mvps or do something about it specially start giving BB's as some automated events , or during gm event and put gum and manuals on vote npc.
but w/e privates servers always have their economy fk'd up.
Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:55 am
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