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Glenfiddich



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I know this is a tedious subject, and i have brought it up in the past, but it seriously needs some attention.

LK, pvp wise, are by far the best class in pvp. Fair enough sinx and champ are good too, but lk are far better im sorry. You put a half decent geared lk against any EQUALLY geared class and the lk will always be the victor, assuming you can play lk to a degree.

Some sort of nerf needs to be put into effect. An lk, if he is smart, can easily kill me and my vast array of mvp cards and hax heals, with farely simple gears.

A delay to bowling bash, only a very small one is my suggestion. But, then again, any nerf would be nice. Because seriously, LK is the new, "Im getting my ass whooped so ill just go get my lk now"

The only lk i kill are just plain stupid ones. I play an lk sometimes, and i dont die. Anyone against this is either in denial, or is an lk player.
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I'm more with this idea than against this actually. I don't really play LK
at all so...yea.
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I AM AGAINST!!!!!


actually you have a point. but you have to consider the pros and cons to nerfing a class.

Pro: Game is attempted to being balanced
Con: People who play LK's (A LOT) will be upset, maybe upset enough to
leave the server...

But honestly I would vote yes on a topic such as this.. for at least a brief
trial period. to see if it actually affects the PVP/WoE realm the way you wish
it to intend.

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Raizeforel wrote:
I AM AGAINST!!!!!


actually you have a point. but you have to consider the pros and cons to nerfing a class.
Pro: Game is attempted to being balanced
Con: People who play LK's (A LOT) will be upset, maybe upset enough to
leave the server...
-Kiva-

Please. You're admitting this game isn't balanced at all!
And also Kiva, if some people were to leave because of this, that means
they can't live without a couple nerfs on a class and they depend on LK's
too much.
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Im not saying the game is INCREDIBLY unbalanced.
I was simply trying to defend Glen but also show some Defense for the
dedicated LK players.
I myself Stick Solely with the Rouge/Stalker Class. Which Means that I would
hate it being nerfed but also can see the upside to it.

Everything should have a chance of a trial period that is recommened by a
current player. That was my Main Intent.

plus i only mentioned losing players as a downright extreme of some player
personalities. Losing players is always something awful to see. But Most
people have a "Preferred" Class to Play.
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Trial it.

Lk players can deal with a trial. It's obvious they are overpowered, unhappy players or not it should be changed for an attempt for more balance.

Keita is right on people leaving. Maybe berserk even just recuperating your health instead of tripling could be another option. Of course lk card would stay the same though as half hp before triple is ok.

Also, nerfs don't remove a class. If they love playing lk they can still play it.
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Glenfiddich wrote:
Trial it.

Lk players can deal with a trial. It's obvious they are overpowered, unhappy players or not it should be changed for an attempt for more balance.

Keita is right
on people leaving. Maybe berserk even just recuperating your health instead of tripling could be another option. Of course lk card would stay the same though as half hp before triple is ok.

Also, nerfs don't remove a class. If they love playing lk they can still play it.

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o.o
when were we arguing?
XD

ANYWAYS!

Yes The Trial would be the best option >.> (Stares at Kieta)
Glen is the Right one
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Before people rage this topic I should point out some keywords of this topic.

1. Gears of equivalence.
2. Smart players.
Refer to my initial post if you don't understand.

And before someone posts "if your having trouble get someone else". Well then yeah they may have trouble then. But then what if they get their lk friend? It will be an endless cycle.
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Glenfiddich wrote:
Before people rage this topic I should point out some keywords of this topic.

1. Gears of equivalence.
2. Smart players.
Refer to my initial post if you don't understand.

And before someone posts "if your having trouble get someone else". Well then yeah they may have trouble then. But then what if they get their lk friend? It will be an endless cycle.


Then you get a clown with Bragi and buy over 500k AD bottles like I have, and go to town on their fawkin arses!
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AD is very easy to counter... Very.

Ghostring
Deviling (if you have), Raydric
Pure Helm
Low Vit

Or combine them all if you want to.
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Ok i'm not really into PVP entirely too much (Can't be at only lv 145 on my sinX) I will be heavy into it when I hit max but i read up on ALOT of it, and from what I gather this IS a rock>Scissors>paper game, please feel free to correct me if i'm incorrect and I would think a rogue rocking full strip would be more then a match for a LK Or the proper cards/gear/weapons would even the odds quite a bit correct?

Besides a good player shouldn't be peneliazed for winning a fight, if noobs where coming in and destroying on there LK's then a nerf would be a much needed thing.
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Glenfiddich wrote:
I know this is a tedious subject, and i have brought it up in the past, but it seriously needs some attention.

LK, pvp wise, are by far the best class in pvp. Fair enough sinx and champ are good too, but lk are far better im sorry. You put a half decent geared lk against any EQUALLY geared class and the lk will always be the victor, assuming you can play lk to a degree.

Some sort of nerf needs to be put into effect. An lk, if he is smart, can easily kill me and my vast array of mvp cards and hax heals, with farely simple gears.

A delay to bowling bash, only a very small one is my suggestion. But, then again, any nerf would be nice. Because seriously, LK is the new, "Im getting my ass whooped so ill just go get my lk now"

The only lk i kill are just plain stupid ones. I play an lk sometimes, and i dont die. Anyone against this is either in denial, or is an lk player.




dude wtf seriously. every class can beat every class...maybe cept super novice lol. this is stupid. there is a slight delay in bowling bash but with 150 dex its instant cast. and im a good LK and i've lost to just about every class. A champ, a sinx, a creator, a wizzy you name it. If we start nerfing classes we gotta nerf them all.
its simple. pick your battles and learn to play more than one class so you can see for yourself. LK can easily be beaten, its just knowing your enemy and what they got.
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im not gona say anything..
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