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tehdarke
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| Somewhereoutthere wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: |
Whatever you say.
Move to another town and stop QQing. |
And so the conversation breaks down we are left with this
of course I'm QQing but you know you people had to QQ about getting a Headgear that gives them ruwach, and the people who probably opposed it left or you told them quote on quote "adapt". so how do you adapt to ruwach/sight as a sinX or a rogue??? cause by adapt if you mean change to a different class then your just saying switch, switch, or leave |
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| tehdarke wrote: | | Somewhereoutthere wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: |
Whatever you say.
Move to another town and stop QQing. |
And so the conversation breaks down we are left with this
of course I'm QQing but you know you people had to QQ about getting a Headgear that gives them ruwach, and the people who probably opposed it left or you told them quote on quote "adapt". so how do you adapt to ruwach/sight as a sinX or a rogue??? cause by adapt if you mean change to a different class then your just saying switch, switch, or leave |
I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen and dude like seriously your flippin out over a headgear that does Ruwatch O_o most people complain about cards and such but you complain about Ruwatch? there are easy ways around it. Just saying |
Please tell exactly how you get around ruwach or sight as a sinX or rogue, I would love to know. |
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| Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:28 am |
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| DracoX09 wrote: | | tehdarke wrote: | | Somewhereoutthere wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: |
Whatever you say.
Move to another town and stop QQing. |
And so the conversation breaks down we are left with this
of course I'm QQing but you know you people had to QQ about getting a Headgear that gives them ruwach, and the people who probably opposed it left or you told them quote on quote "adapt". so how do you adapt to ruwach/sight as a sinX or a rogue??? cause by adapt if you mean change to a different class then your just saying switch, switch, or leave |
I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen and dude like seriously your flippin out over a headgear that does Ruwatch O_o most people complain about cards and such but you complain about Ruwatch? there are easy ways around it. Just saying |
Please tell exactly how you get around ruwach or sight as a sinX or rogue, I would love to know. |
Chase Walk
Back Slide (Not applicable in WoE)
Walk around it if possible
Spam ranged damage either Rogues or SinX's skills at the caster.........
do I need to go on?
The fact you are completely oblivious about Chase Walk means you dont know crap about any Stalker classes I will assume, and I will also assume that you are just being buttmad that there is something that can hinder a SinX.
Note I only say Hinder, because it does not stop you from doing your job, unless that job is grimtooth spam.
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| Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:30 am |
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Sprinkle Sand. Meteor assult. Raid. or your meaning as the sinx or stalker. In which case you should Backslide and use range such as Grim or DS. or if your Atk build just do that O_o idk much about sinx but if your a stalker Ruwatch shouldnt be a problem for you.
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| GlitchyVirus wrote: | I'm going to paraphrase Luzz on this.
"Pnuema shuts down ranged classes. GTB shuts down Magic Classes. Ahura shuts down Stalkers who strip (during WoE). GR/Devi shuts down Creators and Pallies and Champs (who suck). Yet all these things still stay. Why make an exception?"
Really, it doesn't matter. If ANYTHING, little harm would come from changing the skill from Ruwach to Sight, but I honestly don't think much help would come either, even from what you say.
Solution: lrn2adapt or lrn2switch or lrn2gtfokthxbai  |
Im going to be a dick and quote this because, one must remember those items you stated are official items. The OP is talking about a Donation item that is given an official skill. To my knowledge there isn't a card that gives Ruwach for a very good reason as I will point out below.
Also Luzz is fixing the Ahura issue so that one is most likely gone during WOE.
RO Lesson here: Ruwach unlike Sight stuns and damages a player when detected, thus giving an advantage to the person detecting. One of the main reasons I used it because I knew that split second equaled a ton of AD in someones face. Same when played on a LK, I can BB while you are motion stunned which will kill you. Sight however does not do that, you are just detected but no motion pause or damage.
Thats what the OP should be arguing...
Now what to do with the blindfold if Ruwach is removed? Nothing leave it without any bonuses or skills. In fact remove all bonus and stats from donates and see the real games begin.
As I said a long time ago Reign is using a 99/70 formula on a 255/120 server. Shit doesn't work like that and does need to be modified. But what do I care I left this bish
Also I think a requirement for players should be playing on a low rate for a few years without donates and easy access to shit. Damn that would be funny as hell, people may actually learn something...
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| DracoX09 wrote: | | tehdarke wrote: | | Somewhereoutthere wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: |
Whatever you say.
Move to another town and stop QQing. |
And so the conversation breaks down we are left with this
of course I'm QQing but you know you people had to QQ about getting a Headgear that gives them ruwach, and the people who probably opposed it left or you told them quote on quote "adapt". so how do you adapt to ruwach/sight as a sinX or a rogue??? cause by adapt if you mean change to a different class then your just saying switch, switch, or leave |
I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen and dude like seriously your flippin out over a headgear that does Ruwatch O_o most people complain about cards and such but you complain about Ruwatch? there are easy ways around it. Just saying |
Please tell exactly how you get around ruwach or sight as a sinX or rogue, I would love to know. |
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | DracoX09 wrote: | | tehdarke wrote: | | Somewhereoutthere wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: |
Whatever you say.
Move to another town and stop QQing. |
And so the conversation breaks down we are left with this
of course I'm QQing but you know you people had to QQ about getting a Headgear that gives them ruwach, and the people who probably opposed it left or you told them quote on quote "adapt". so how do you adapt to ruwach/sight as a sinX or a rogue??? cause by adapt if you mean change to a different class then your just saying switch, switch, or leave |
I thought the Headgear came when luzz put a bunch of different New headgear O_o didnt know it was voted or chosen and dude like seriously your flippin out over a headgear that does Ruwatch O_o most people complain about cards and such but you complain about Ruwatch? there are easy ways around it. Just saying |
Please tell exactly how you get around ruwach or sight as a sinX or rogue, I would love to know. |
Chase Walk
Back Slide (Not applicable in WoE)
Walk around it if possible
Spam ranged damage either Rogues or SinX's skills at the caster.........
do I need to go on?
The fact you are completely oblivious about Chase Walk means you dont know crap about any Stalker classes I will assume, and I will also assume that you are just being buttmad that there is something that can hinder a SinX.
Note I only say Hinder, because it does not stop you from doing your job, unless that job is grimtooth spam. |
Walk around it? LKs move faster than anyone, how do you beat that?
I'm not oblivious to chase walk, but in WoE you lose speed in chase walk because you can't be revealed unless hit, and every class has AoE skills to reveal them.
And if you spam any attack it takes you out of cloak, so there wouldn't be much of a point. And grimtooth can't be spammed quick enough to pin someone. |
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| Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:46 am |
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Again, you sir are a complete dumbass who does not know what your blabbing about.
You dont lose speed in Chase Walk, you lose speed in Tunnel Drive (The movable hiding) And while AoE can get them out of chase walk, well this is not a thread about AoE is it? This thread is about Ruwach, Ruwach does not get you out of chase walk.
As for spamming, its a suggestion and I am trying to help you a bit, you can also spam Soul Breaker. Dont like it? Stop asking meandering questions to which you think you can say "AHA but what about XXX?!?!?"
You should stop posting, this is for your own good.
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Because that good sir, would make sense, and thus defuse the entire argument. |
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| Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:50 am |
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | Again, you sir are a complete dumbass who does not know what your blabbing about.
You dont lose speed in Chase Walk, you lose speed in Tunnel Drive (The movable hiding) And while AoE can get them out of chase walk, well this is not a thread about AoE is it? This thread is about Ruwach, Ruwach does not get you out of chase walk.
As for spamming, its a suggestion and I am trying to help you a bit, you can also spam Soul Breaker. Dont like it? Stop asking meandering questions to which you think you can say "AHA but what about XXX?!?!?"
You should stop posting, this is for your own good. |
Am I wrong for wanting to agree with this? ._.!
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: | I'm going to paraphrase Luzz on this.
"Pnuema shuts down ranged classes. GTB shuts down Magic Classes. Ahura shuts down Stalkers who strip (during WoE). GR/Devi shuts down Creators and Pallies and Champs (who suck). Yet all these things still stay. Why make an exception?"
Really, it doesn't matter. If ANYTHING, little harm would come from changing the skill from Ruwach to Sight, but I honestly don't think much help would come either, even from what you say.
Solution: lrn2adapt or lrn2switch or lrn2gtfokthxbai |
Im going to be a dick and quote this because, one must remember those items you stated are official items. The OP is talking about a Donation item that is given an official skill. To my knowledge there isn't a card that gives Ruwach for a very good reason as I will point out below.
Also Luzz is fixing the Ahura issue so that one is most likely gone during WOE.
RO Lesson here: Ruwach unlike Sight stuns and damages a player when detected, thus giving an advantage to the person detecting. One of the main reasons I used it because I knew that split second equaled a ton of AD in someones face. Same when played on a LK, I can BB while you are motion stunned which will kill you. Sight however does not do that, you are just detected but no motion pause or damage.
Thats what the OP should be arguing...
Now what to do with the blindfold if Ruwach is removed? Nothing leave it without any bonuses or skills. In fact remove all bonus and stats from donates and see the real games begin.
As I said a long time ago Reign is using a 99/70 formula on a 255/120 server. Shit doesn't work like that and does need to be modified. But what do I care I left this bish
Also I think a requirement for players should be playing on a low rate for a few years without donates and easy access to shit. Damn that would be funny as hell, people may actually learn something... |
I love how everyone makes bullshit arguments, yet someone who doesn't even care actually makes VALID ones.
1st, the item Satellite Hairband (something like that) gives that. Not a card, but still, official and easy to get.
Good to hear that.
That may be true, but it is still not exactly SO OVERPOWERED that everyone makes it out to be. It's simply slightly better than Sight, and does not warrant all this brouhaha over it.
That would make this a 255/120 iRO server. Which would be boring.
Would be nice if there was a way to actually make that a requirement in fact XD
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| GlitchyVirus wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: | I'm going to paraphrase Luzz on this.
"Pnuema shuts down ranged classes. GTB shuts down Magic Classes. Ahura shuts down Stalkers who strip (during WoE). GR/Devi shuts down Creators and Pallies and Champs (who suck). Yet all these things still stay. Why make an exception?"
Really, it doesn't matter. If ANYTHING, little harm would come from changing the skill from Ruwach to Sight, but I honestly don't think much help would come either, even from what you say.
Solution: lrn2adapt or lrn2switch or lrn2gtfokthxbai |
Im going to be a dick and quote this because, one must remember those items you stated are official items. The OP is talking about a Donation item that is given an official skill. To my knowledge there isn't a card that gives Ruwach for a very good reason as I will point out below.
Also Luzz is fixing the Ahura issue so that one is most likely gone during WOE.
RO Lesson here: Ruwach unlike Sight stuns and damages a player when detected, thus giving an advantage to the person detecting. One of the main reasons I used it because I knew that split second equaled a ton of AD in someones face. Same when played on a LK, I can BB while you are motion stunned which will kill you. Sight however does not do that, you are just detected but no motion pause or damage.
Thats what the OP should be arguing...
Now what to do with the blindfold if Ruwach is removed? Nothing leave it without any bonuses or skills. In fact remove all bonus and stats from donates and see the real games begin.
As I said a long time ago Reign is using a 99/70 formula on a 255/120 server. Shit doesn't work like that and does need to be modified. But what do I care I left this bish
Also I think a requirement for players should be playing on a low rate for a few years without donates and easy access to shit. Damn that would be funny as hell, people may actually learn something... |
I love how everyone makes bullshit arguments, yet someone who doesn't even care actually makes VALID ones.
1st, the item Satellite Hairband (something like that) gives that. Not a card, but still, official and easy to get.
Good to hear that.
That may be true, but it is still not exactly SO OVERPOWERED that everyone makes it out to be. It's simply slightly better than Sight, and does not warrant all this brouhaha over it.
That would make this a 255/120 iRO server. Which would be boring.
Would be nice if there was a way to actually make that a requirement in fact XD |
The game still allows people to get Treasure Edition boxes? I haven't seen it on here, but I know the reason it is easy to get on here is due to the rewards girl. Then again its upper headgear so players can't use their Valks. People gotta have their Valks you know. =)
Ruwach is not over powered, yes it does give an advantage but so does everything else on this server. Thats what the OP I believe is not getting.
Make one week without donation items you wont hear anymore complaints about Kiels, Maya P, or anything you probably hear right now. Crazy but it might actually be more enjoyable and less drama inducing.
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| Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:06 am |
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| GlitchyVirus wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | GlitchyVirus wrote: | I'm going to paraphrase Luzz on this.
"Pnuema shuts down ranged classes. GTB shuts down Magic Classes. Ahura shuts down Stalkers who strip (during WoE). GR/Devi shuts down Creators and Pallies and Champs (who suck). Yet all these things still stay. Why make an exception?"
Really, it doesn't matter. If ANYTHING, little harm would come from changing the skill from Ruwach to Sight, but I honestly don't think much help would come either, even from what you say.
Solution: lrn2adapt or lrn2switch or lrn2gtfokthxbai |
Im going to be a dick and quote this because, one must remember those items you stated are official items. The OP is talking about a Donation item that is given an official skill. To my knowledge there isn't a card that gives Ruwach for a very good reason as I will point out below.
Also Luzz is fixing the Ahura issue so that one is most likely gone during WOE.
RO Lesson here: Ruwach unlike Sight stuns and damages a player when detected, thus giving an advantage to the person detecting. One of the main reasons I used it because I knew that split second equaled a ton of AD in someones face. Same when played on a LK, I can BB while you are motion stunned which will kill you. Sight however does not do that, you are just detected but no motion pause or damage.
Thats what the OP should be arguing...
Now what to do with the blindfold if Ruwach is removed? Nothing leave it without any bonuses or skills. In fact remove all bonus and stats from donates and see the real games begin.
As I said a long time ago Reign is using a 99/70 formula on a 255/120 server. Shit doesn't work like that and does need to be modified. But what do I care I left this bish
Also I think a requirement for players should be playing on a low rate for a few years without donates and easy access to shit. Damn that would be funny as hell, people may actually learn something... |
I love how everyone makes bullshit arguments, yet someone who doesn't even care actually makes VALID ones.
1st, the item Satellite Hairband (something like that) gives that. Not a card, but still, official and easy to get.
Good to hear that.
That may be true, but it is still not exactly SO OVERPOWERED that everyone makes it out to be. It's simply slightly better than Sight, and does not warrant all this brouhaha over it.
That would make this a 255/120 iRO server. Which would be boring.
Would be nice if there was a way to actually make that a requirement in fact XD |
So if there's already a headgear that gives Ruwach, why do we have the black blindfold? is that not somewhat redundant? |
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I support Bubba's post 100%.
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Back on topic. Here's a little thing that'd probably help keep Ruwach; When you get frozen while hidden and someone reveals you with Ruwach, the freeze breaks, if it is revealed with Sight, it doesn't break, which means, if it was Sight, they'd probably reveal you and then get a good position + elements and gear-change and then smash your face in even harder than if they had revealed you with Ruwach.
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| Toft wrote: | I did too, until I saw the last part of it.. I don't believe Bubba has played on a lowrate that isn't a private server. Cards and gear is always easy to get on private servers, no exceptions.
Back on topic. Here's a little thing that'd probably help keep Ruwach; When you get frozen while hidden and someone reveals you with Ruwach, the freeze breaks, if it is revealed with Sight, it doesn't break, which means, if it was Sight, they'd probably reveal you and then get a good position + elements and gear-change and then smash your face in even harder than if they had revealed you with Ruwach. |
Unlike those who pick private servers based on easiness I pick mine to be close to iRO as possible. Euphro(both 1/1/1 and 3/3/2), Fancy, Quality, etc all back in the day were mirror images of iRO. As well as doing iRO for a month when I was making my own server. This was back in 03-06 I believe, been a while.
Those servers you had to bust your ass to get your gear, hell I was on Fancy(7/7/5) for a year and pumped only 1 Hydra card. Most of the gear I got on their was from doing WOE, you can ask Vic (OrphanXD) he played on their with me and could tell you how legit it was. So don't assume all private servers are easy.
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