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Luzz, for your number #2, nerfs don't make happy players :S The reason it is split is because of course the lk and people who hold crazy cards are going to defend themselves.
Nonetheless, you bring out a good point about renewal, I forgot about that :S that will probably change alot anyway :S
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | How about someone make a poll so we can see the actual numbers of peoples opinions on this stuff?
BB spam is ridiculous enough let alone sword guardian cards helping that ridiculousness.
Also @ Maxwell
Not playing with any LK's means no WoE whatsoever because EVERYONE plays a LK, now why is that I wonder? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >_> |
this statement is riddled with wrongness. first off most LK i know use spears which sword guardian doesnt work in. BB spam isnt ridiculous if you know how to beat us. wear neutral resistance, get freeze armor, shit something. And as your statement of EVERYONE plays LK on woe, thats laughable. i see more sinx and wizard than LK in battle. And even if there was a lot of lk SO WHAT its the players choice to chose whatever damned character they like to play.
make a poll, do something, just stop complaining over a class.
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this statement is riddled with wrongness. first off most LK i know use spears which sword guardian doesnt work in. BB spam isnt ridiculous if you know how to beat us. wear neutral resistance, get freeze armor, shit something. And as your statement of EVERYONE plays LK on woe, thats laughable. i see more sinx and wizard than LK in battle. And even if there was a lot of lk SO WHAT its the players choice to chose whatever damned character they like to play.
make a poll, do something, just stop complaining over a class. |
"Most people using spears " is a broad generalization and a bad one. Last I checked 2H swords were best on a LK for various reasons, BB spam being one of them. (That was a different server though, soI'm not 100% sure about here on this server if spears are the BEST build but I highly doubt it)
And about those reduction gears, Funny thing is my 211 Vit paladin dies with a raydric muffler on in 5 hits from bowling bash with Auto Guard and Shield Reflect going, and BB is NOT overpowered?
LK as a class is not the problem I feel, BB spam is; If BB spam got solved (maybe a higher SP cost and Disabling blue potion use on WoE maps like YGG is disabled, then only classes it would hurt is Asura spammers, BB spammers, and maybe a soul burn happy Scholar and its only in WoE so we need not worry about PVE junk ) Then LK's would not be as ridiculous. |
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| Isn't this true for some other classes then? Because for mages the instant casts get really annoying, I'm not talking about if they use it slowly but when the spam JT and SG over and over again no one can really do anything, especially LKs |
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| Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:31 pm |
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | dragonbug wrote: |
this statement is riddled with wrongness. first off most LK i know use spears which sword guardian doesnt work in. BB spam isnt ridiculous if you know how to beat us. wear neutral resistance, get freeze armor, shit something. And as your statement of EVERYONE plays LK on woe, thats laughable. i see more sinx and wizard than LK in battle. And even if there was a lot of lk SO WHAT its the players choice to chose whatever damned character they like to play.
make a poll, do something, just stop complaining over a class. |
"Most people using spears " is a broad generalization and a bad one. Last I checked 2H swords were best on a LK for various reasons, BB spam being one of them. (That was a different server though, soI'm not 100% sure about here on this server if spears are the BEST build but I highly doubt it)
And about those reduction gears, Funny thing is my 211 Vit paladin dies with a raydric muffler on in 5 hits from bowling bash with Auto Guard and Shield Reflect going, and BB is NOT overpowered?
LK as a class is not the problem I feel, BB spam is; If BB spam got solved (maybe a higher SP cost and Disabling blue potion use on WoE maps like YGG is disabled, then only classes it would hurt is Asura spammers, BB spammers, and maybe a soul burn happy Scholar and its only in WoE so we need not worry about PVE junk ) Then LK's would not be as ridiculous. |
You gotta be new to this server....
1. Your using a raydric on a pally???? WTF, Pally = VIT WHORE learn it and love it. Also remember the more VIT the more Thana rapes you.
2. Spear LK's are far superior to blade LK's on this server you will see they have more damage and distance. It's about formula's and whats been proven.
3. Disabling blue pots, giggles, etc, is just plan wrong. Any person who has played LK knows how fast SP is gone in a fight. Your suggesting to nerf everyone because they all rely on Pots to continue fighting is jut plan crazy.
4. Champs don't rely on Asura, go fight a decent champ and you will see. Unless things have change in the 2+ months that I've been retired.
5. Lastly BB was edited a while back, My guess is in December sometime. Before that BB never pulled a person towards them, now it does, thus decreases the BB spam. Players had to learn how to get out of that problem.
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | dragonbug wrote: |
this statement is riddled with wrongness. first off most LK i know use spears which sword guardian doesnt work in. BB spam isnt ridiculous if you know how to beat us. wear neutral resistance, get freeze armor, shit something. And as your statement of EVERYONE plays LK on woe, thats laughable. i see more sinx and wizard than LK in battle. And even if there was a lot of lk SO WHAT its the players choice to chose whatever damned character they like to play.
make a poll, do something, just stop complaining over a class. |
"Most people using spears " is a broad generalization and a bad one. Last I checked 2H swords were best on a LK for various reasons, BB spam being one of them. (That was a different server though, soI'm not 100% sure about here on this server if spears are the BEST build but I highly doubt it)
And about those reduction gears, Funny thing is my 211 Vit paladin dies with a raydric muffler on in 5 hits from bowling bash with Auto Guard and Shield Reflect going, and BB is NOT overpowered?
LK as a class is not the problem I feel, BB spam is; If BB spam got solved (maybe a higher SP cost and Disabling blue potion use on WoE maps like YGG is disabled, then only classes it would hurt is Asura spammers, BB spammers, and maybe a soul burn happy Scholar and its only in WoE so we need not worry about PVE junk ) Then LK's would not be as ridiculous. |
You gotta be new to this server....
1. Your using a raydric on a pally???? WTF, Pally = VIT WHORE learn it and love it. Also remember the more VIT the more Thana rapes you.
2. Spear LK's are far superior to blade LK's on this server you will see they have more damage and distance. It's about formula's and whats been proven.
3. Disabling blue pots, giggles, etc, is just plan wrong. Any person who has played LK knows how fast SP is gone in a fight. Your suggesting to nerf everyone because they all rely on Pots to continue fighting is jut plan crazy.
4. Champs don't rely on Asura, go fight a decent champ and you will see. Unless things have change in the 2+ months that I've been retired.
5. Lastly BB was edited a while back, My guess is in December sometime. Before that BB never pulled a person towards them, now it does, thus decreases the BB spam. Players had to learn how to get out of that problem. |
1: I am playing a vit build you twat. "211 Vit paladin" Also why not use raydric on a paladin? dragonbug said it SHOULD cut down the insane bowling bash damage numbers.
2: No comment then
3:You are worse then Glen Beck and the Obamacare scare; You are taking thing out of context I said ONLY BLUE POTS, I never once said anything about gigglings, or any other potions, so alchemists can still go crazy with slim chucking and all that jazz, and people can still hotkey and spam slim whites.
4: The one champ I do rarely see in WoE relies on Asura builds. I think champs are rare enough as it is, and yes I think things may have changed since you retired.
5: I was not here in december, I came along in february, and made a forum account only a while ago and I rarely do post. God knows if I do post anything people like you will take it all out of context and say "HEY HE WANTS ALL POTS BANNED GIT HIM!!!" |
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This thread has reached the end of its sane, friendly use. Suggesting death by nuking from orbit.
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | dragonbug wrote: |
this statement is riddled with wrongness. first off most LK i know use spears which sword guardian doesnt work in. BB spam isnt ridiculous if you know how to beat us. wear neutral resistance, get freeze armor, shit something. And as your statement of EVERYONE plays LK on woe, thats laughable. i see more sinx and wizard than LK in battle. And even if there was a lot of lk SO WHAT its the players choice to chose whatever damned character they like to play.
make a poll, do something, just stop complaining over a class. |
"Most people using spears " is a broad generalization and a bad one. Last I checked 2H swords were best on a LK for various reasons, BB spam being one of them. (That was a different server though, soI'm not 100% sure about here on this server if spears are the BEST build but I highly doubt it)
And about those reduction gears, Funny thing is my 211 Vit paladin dies with a raydric muffler on in 5 hits from bowling bash with Auto Guard and Shield Reflect going, and BB is NOT overpowered?
LK as a class is not the problem I feel, BB spam is; If BB spam got solved (maybe a higher SP cost and Disabling blue potion use on WoE maps like YGG is disabled, then only classes it would hurt is Asura spammers, BB spammers, and maybe a soul burn happy Scholar and its only in WoE so we need not worry about PVE junk ) Then LK's would not be as ridiculous. |
You gotta be new to this server....
1. Your using a raydric on a pally???? WTF, Pally = VIT WHORE learn it and love it. Also remember the more VIT the more Thana rapes you.
2. Spear LK's are far superior to blade LK's on this server you will see they have more damage and distance. It's about formula's and whats been proven.
3. Disabling blue pots, giggles, etc, is just plan wrong. Any person who has played LK knows how fast SP is gone in a fight. Your suggesting to nerf everyone because they all rely on Pots to continue fighting is jut plan crazy.
4. Champs don't rely on Asura, go fight a decent champ and you will see. Unless things have change in the 2+ months that I've been retired.
5. Lastly BB was edited a while back, My guess is in December sometime. Before that BB never pulled a person towards them, now it does, thus decreases the BB spam. Players had to learn how to get out of that problem. |
1: I am playing a vit build you twat. "211 Vit paladin" Also why not use raydric on a paladin? dragonbug said it SHOULD cut down the insane bowling bash damage numbers.
2: No comment then
3:You are worse then Glen Beck and the Obamacare scare; You are taking thing out of context I said ONLY BLUE POTS, I never once said anything about gigglings, or any other potions, so alchemists can still go crazy with slim chucking and all that jazz, and people can still hotkey and spam slim whites.
4: The one champ I do rarely see in WoE relies on Asura builds. I think champs are rare enough as it is, and yes I think things may have changed since you retired.
5: I was not here in december, I came along in february, and made a forum account only a while ago and I rarely do post. God knows if I do post anything people like you will take it all out of context and say "HEY HE WANTS ALL POTS BANNED GIT HIM!!!" |
211 VIT is not full VIT build... 255 Vit + all the Vit gear, so no your not VIT build. If your going one on one with a LK, Raydric is pointless because most likely on this server they have a Thana. So you wanna prolong the fight as long as possible so they can frenzy. Pressure, SC, Gospel, and last but not least SAC & Heal. Keep all your defenses up so you do dmg back to them. Thats how you play Pally, take it from someone who has achieved 5m hp, over 1m sac's, & 400k sac's on people who wear reducers.
By giggles I meant the box of panting. Which restores SP, I call them giggles because they are the same as the HP one but for SP. LK's use pants because of its quickness, chems use blue pots for chucking along with other classes.
If you see an asura champ... ghostring nuff said or let them Kamikaze.
Simple things, I played on 20+ servers, by far this is the biggest amount of bitching I have ever seen on one class, or item.
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Simple things, I played on 20+ servers, by far this is the biggest amount of bitching I have ever seen on one class, or item. |
So you realize how big of a problem it is? |
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its not THAT BIG A PROBLEM
yall are making it seem that big
over reacting
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| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | LK as a class is not the problem I feel, BB spam is |
Ding ding, thankyou.
| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | 211 VIT is not full VIT build... 255 Vit + all the Vit gear, so no your not VIT build. If your going one on one with a LK, Raydric is pointless because most likely on this server they have a Thana. So you wanna prolong the fight as long as possible so they can frenzy. Pressure, SC, Gospel, and last but not least SAC & Heal. Keep all your defenses up so you do dmg back to them. Thats how you play Pally, take it from someone who has achieved 5m hp, over 1m sac's, & 400k sac's on people who wear reducers.
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Wow bubba, its not hard to figure out the physics of a game, stop bragging about achieving a relatively simple feat. Ive seen you do it once in RDH thread, i think thats enough =_= Big whoop, you had good cards. And if you think a pally can beat a lord knight, i dare you to physically prove that to me. Pally cannot beat lk. You think you know how to beat all these classes, yet your thinking about mvp cards constantly.
Also, if everyone here knew what i knew, it would be a big problem but i might just point that out to luzz.
| GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Simple things, I played on 20+ servers, by far this is the biggest amount of bitching I have ever seen on one class, or item. |
So you realize how big of a problem it is? |
Lol, thankyou.
On another note, cy is right, please lock thread.
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| Glenfiddich wrote: | | And if you think a pally can beat a lord knight, i dare you to physically prove that to me. Pally cannot beat lk. |
I don't agree with this at all I'm sure a skilled paladin can beat an LK even with thana. I remember a pally from my old server RRO who was great and I never seen an LK beat him more times then he would beat them. Usually he just embarrassed them everytime but he was heavily geared I can bet on that. I believe it can be done. |
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| rainro wrote: | | I don't agree with this at all I'm sure a skilled paladin can beat an LK even with thana. I remember a pally from my old server RRO who was great and I never seen an LK beat him more times then he would beat them. Usually he just embarrassed them everytime but he was heavily geared I can bet on that. I believe it can be done. |
Maybe on your old server, but not here >:S Ill happily take any pally on with muh lk. They can have kiels, tao, whatever they like. Ill stick stock standard.
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