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Glenfiddich wrote:
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Guilds can currently hold up to 4 different castles.


I'm an idiot and your right shadow


I know 8D
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Lies!
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Honestly, why do people resort to insulting others for their ideas, you can think they are good or bad, doesn't mean you have to call someone an idiot or stupid over it. In all honesty, people who want woe to be harder, try woeing without your donates, and without your over powered mvp cards like keils thana and gtb, see how interesting it gets, there are many ways to change without having to change the actual server or structure of the woe system.

Also, I don't think Strafe was refering to SOS being a big guild just on the number of it's people, we know you only have less than 8 people, doesn't make you not a big guild, after all you hold 3 prontera castles, he probably meant you were 'well skilled' in woe and were able to get a few castles, more than the number of your people.

Please remember this is a suggestion thread not a bashing people for their suggestion thread. Skye's already said Play nice once. So, Play nice, be happy, and enjoy your day!

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Anam wrote:

Also, I don't think Strafe was refering to SOS being a big guild just on the number of it's people, we know you only have less than 8 people, doesn't make you not a big guild, after all you hold 3 prontera castles, he probably meant you were 'well skilled' in woe and were able to get a few castles, more than the number of your people.


Actually, that's exactly what I meant by "big". According to Luzz, SOS is one of the strongest guilds at the moment.

@everyone who decided to bash me and call me stupid.
Well, it's just an idea, there's no need to tear my head off, and as far as the GTB thing goes, I was only referring to a post I saw on iRO's main page about it being banned.
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Andi wrote:
Additional suggestion (if it's already been mentioned, sorry):

Shorten the length of WoE. It would make it more intense. Smile



That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea either. Kudos to that :thumbsup:
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:
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Additional suggestion (if it's already been mentioned, sorry):

Shorten the length of WoE. It would make it more intense. Smile



That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea either. Kudos to that :thumbsup:

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XDoggStrafe wrote:
Anam wrote:

Also, I don't think Strafe was refering to SOS being a big guild just on the number of it's people, we know you only have less than 8 people, doesn't make you not a big guild, after all you hold 3 prontera castles, he probably meant you were 'well skilled' in woe and were able to get a few castles, more than the number of your people.


Actually, that's exactly what I meant by "big". According to Luzz, SOS is one of the strongest guilds at the moment.

@everyone who decided to bash me and call me stupid.
Well, it's just an idea, there's no need to tear my head off, and as far as the GTB thing goes, I was only referring to a post I saw on iRO's main page about it being banned.


According to Luzz, SOS is one of the strongest guilds at the moment.
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I already did a poll about GTB being banned but no one wanted it banned >____> i personaly want it banned because my main is a Professor and magic is my main means of doing damage.
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marine wrote:
XDoggStrafe wrote:
Anam wrote:

Also, I don't think Strafe was refering to SOS being a big guild just on the number of it's people, we know you only have less than 8 people, doesn't make you not a big guild, after all you hold 3 prontera castles, he probably meant you were 'well skilled' in woe and were able to get a few castles, more than the number of your people.


Actually, that's exactly what I meant by "big". According to Luzz, SOS is one of the strongest guilds at the moment.

@everyone who decided to bash me and call me stupid.
Well, it's just an idea, there's no need to tear my head off, and as far as the GTB thing goes, I was only referring to a post I saw on iRO's main page about it being banned.


According to Luzz, SOS is one of the strongest guilds at the moment.
i feel badass ok ok im badazz.


okok you are badass Cool
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XDoggStrafe wrote:
Honestly, a few points here about the whole "WoE is too easy" complaint/suggestions.
1) Giving the Emp more HP would make it more difficult to break it, but not much more unless the HP was seriously kicked up. And even then, you'd have people fighting for about a week, maybe 2 (so about 2 - 4 WoE's) til they find out just how long it'll take to break the emp, then you can expect the last minute rush strategy to adapt to this. Personally, I find the last minute thing annoying, but it's a legit tactic in wars.
2) Dividing the castles by days, that would destroy the whole WoE idea, the whole point of it is to fight right? Well, how fun is it going to be if one guild controls swanhild, and has the players to keep said castle indefinitely? And to make the matters worse, you'd have the biggest guilds (Dreams, DE, SOS, etc.) fully prepared for those WoE days since they wouldn't have to divide as much to conquer castles. I've seen servers implement this before, and it destroyed their WoE days.
3) Making WoE more challenging, why not ban certain MVP cards? Such as GTB? I mean, if you're no longer immune to all magic you're gonna need a new strategy (btw, iRO's official servers have banned GTB from WoE apparently). Or what about things like Gloom Under Night? You wanna make the emp harder to break, ban all the items that make breaking it easier from WoE, thus nullifying the whole "I'll just run" tactics. There are far more indepth ways to make WoE more challenging without totally ruining it's balance by doing things like dividing castles by day or unnerfing skills. *EDIT* I forgot to mention this, but what about banning donate only items from WoE? That would level the playing field and make things a little more challenging. (For the record, I do have donates, so I'm not just suggesting this so that others suffer from it, I'd lose out too. It's just an idea)

These are just my two cents and personal opinions on the matter, though I'd really hope that Luzz or Skye reads this and takes it into consideration.





are you crazy? lol
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banning cards doent solved anything, those cards are made for their purpose, everything can be countered, just use common sense and logic, probably those guys who wanted to banned those cards are the guys who doesnt want it, cause when someone with gr and gtb entered their castle, they just dont know what to do, just panic and cry at the corner lol ^^
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shaiderr wrote:
banning cards doent solved anything, those cards are made for their purpose, everything can be countered, just use common sense and logic, probably those guys who wanted to banned those cards are the guys who doesnt want it, cause when someone with gr and gtb entered their castle, they just dont know what to do, just panic and cry at the corner lol ^^


I don't panic or cry in a corner when someone has gtb, I'm just saying that it's over powered, and that it should be banned from woe due to nullifying 3 different classes. And if you don't like my SUGGESTION then don't call me names, just say you don't like it and move on.
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GTB can be overpowered, yes.

But it removes a crucial gear to a character, the cranial. Learn to use teamwork people. No one can hotkey quick enough between gtb and cranial if you are good enough at what you are doing. This game was never designed to be a game where everyone can solo, its a game of teamwork.
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ShadowNguyen91 wrote:
I already did a poll about it being banned but no one wanted it banned >____> i personaly want it banned because my main is a Professor and magic is my main means of doing damage.



If only they would... But either way, I'm gonna let it be as it is. WoE's already decent enough (it's a system that's worked for Reign for over a year now I believe), and not much can come of changing it cause everyone will just change their already existing tactic slightly to match whatever is changed., unless you can find a way to force them to fight.
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On a side note, someone, dont know if it was this post, said GTB isnt fair as there is no melee equivalent.

Full reflect pally, almost your melee equivalent to the gtb? O.o Eh, eh?

People find their way around that easy enough...
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