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| Should Dale be brought back to the server? |
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Zack Roger
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| Because I've been in your situation before. Not exactly the same but I know you should wait. I did the same and well I can say it was well worth the wait |
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:14 am |
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| dale200 wrote: | | that was then, this is now. |
It hasn't even been a month! :p
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Personally, I do not think you should have your ban revoked. Maybe shortened to less than two years. However, I know for a fact, that you had been looking into sprite editing BEFORE someone taught you how to do it. I know you spoke to Luzz about it and that he WARNED you about sprite modding getting you banned. Yet you did it anyway.
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:14 am |
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tehdarke
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| dale200 wrote: | | tehdarke wrote: | I Voted No.
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Rude to me and other players numerous times.
Clearly Immature and says rude\disrespectful things. Sad thing is alot of people know of this and defend him cause he is young. *B/S*
Maybe once he has grown up and has shown he can be respectable player he can come back on like a probation.
Sorry, but honestly glad he is gone =/ I was tired of his Rudeness.
He shouldnt had messed with his sprites and he should learn his lesson and be banned like everyone else who gets banned. |
as i said before, that was then, this is now. |
Wait a year or half of one and ill consider changin my vote. Honestly I dont believe you have changed. Yes i feel you are now smart enough to know not to mod your stuff but i dont believe as a player you have changed. Take some real time to change and wait like everyone else does.
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:15 am |
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dale200
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| RomValeth wrote: | | Sekiria wrote: | I voted no. Here's why:
Dale screwed up. He admits he did. It is not as though anyone else forced him to edit sprites by holding a gun to his head. He did it of his own volition, even though it is against the rules. Ignorance of a rule is not an excuse. This in and of itself is more than enough for me to say no; even if someone 'convinced' him to do it, he still acted on his own. If he's now mature enough to accept that he did something wrong, then he was mature enough to act of his own free will. This also means he's mature enough to deal with the consequences of his behavior.
Regarding the appeals to emotion and sense of fairness: He may be young, and he may be learning, but that means it is even more important for him to understand the concept of consequences, and that they do apply. Lifting the ban would, as has been stated previously, allow him to think (even subconsciously) that breaking rules is alright as any consequence will be short lived. He must serve his time as anyone else should, and then come back to hopefully be a productive member of the server.
When I was his age, no one counted to three and stopped. I was punished, and it was explained to me why. As a result of this, I have no room in my heart for forgiving someone who did wrong and then wants to escape punishment by claiming reform: we've seen it before, we'll see it again, and not just on a private RO server.
Dale: I am sure you are attempting to better yourself, and I hope you really do want to be a productive member of this server. However, I am firmly of the opinion that your ban is deserved and it should be ridden out until it is over. Whether you are let back or your ban sticks, I hope your behavior has changed/will change for the better. Good luck. |
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This shit isn't needed on this server. I heard about this in game and i'm voting no. He's broke the rules, Lied, and everything else, Everyone who plays ANY Ragnarok online server knows the rules, 90% of them say "NO EDITED GRFs" Only way this shit would pass is if he had a gun to his head, and I don't think that is true at all. Lol (Pics or it didn't happen) Dale's been banned many times for ether rude behavior or dis-obeying the rules. Don't give cheaters second chances. If ya can't do the time, Don't do the crime. Anyone with half a brain would agree with me. |
i have 1 full brain, therefore i disagree with you.
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:15 am |
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Zack Roger
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| ACCEPT THE FATE!!! O= |
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:20 am |
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dale200
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| Zack Roger wrote: | | ACCEPT THE FATE!!! O= |
I would still like to know though, if I came back, why wouldn't I be successful?
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:31 am |
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Zack Roger
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| You wouldn't be successful from what people have told me and what I've experienced but still YOU MADE A POLL that shows you shouldn't come back and just wait.. But that's my opinion.. :\ |
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:39 am |
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I voted no for the same reason as Andii. Sorry.
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:41 am |
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| Zack Roger wrote: | | You wouldn't be successful from what people have told me and what I've experienced but still YOU MADE A POLL that shows you shouldn't come back and just wait.. But that's my opinion.. :\ |
21-20, Majority Rules?
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| Venser wrote: | | dale200 wrote: | | that was then, this is now. |
It hasn't even been a month! :p
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Personally, I do not think you should have your ban revoked. Maybe shortened to less than two years. However, I know for a fact, that you had been looking into sprite editing BEFORE someone taught you how to do it. I know you spoke to Luzz about it and that he WARNED you about sprite modding getting you banned. Yet you did it anyway. |
that was then...this is now, right, dale?
obviously Luzz, the owner of the server, flat out telling you that you will be banned wasnt enough of a deterent for you. So now, you should learn your lesson the hard way. The easy, mature and smart thing would've been to not edit your sprites at all. Luzz told you what would happen. You did it any way. You were banned. You cannot convince me that your ban should be revoked when you were clearly told beforehand of what would happened if you participated in such behavvior.
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:50 am |
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| dale200 wrote: | | Zack Roger wrote: | | You wouldn't be successful from what people have told me and what I've experienced but still YOU MADE A POLL that shows you shouldn't come back and just wait.. But that's my opinion.. :\ |
21-20, Majority Rules? |
Negative. 1. could be fake votes
2. Rainkid and luzz only have the final say.
3. you shouldnt be allowed to come back =/
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:51 am |
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Zack Roger
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| nvm I just posted after Greg lmao so yea agree with Greg |
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:53 am |
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Did Luzz tell you to make this poll?
It doesn't sound very official, so I'd muster the assumption that he didn't.
It doesn't matter if enough people vote for you to come back, because you broke the rules.
Through experience, you don't do alot of swift learning, either.
Then again, Luzz is a Mercy Extremist.
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:57 am |
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I'm actually voting yes, but I don't believe his account should be given back to him. This isn't the first time you've gotten banned and let back to the server. This isn't the first time you've broken the rules. This isn't the first time you've been kicked from here and said "I'll be good, just let me back." This isn't the FIRST time. As Dale told me so kindly over facebook, it's only his account that is banned. So technically this poll means nothing, he's allowed on the server, he just isn't allowed on his original account which he cheated on. I think he should be allowed on the server (which he already is) he just gets to suffer the repercussion of not getting his account back.
Sorry if I may have copied anyone, I do not find it needed to read the posts you've all made seeing as, this thread got to 4 pages and by just skimming, I see nothing but trolls, spam, and pointless arguments. |
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| Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:01 am |
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| Monochrome wrote: | Did Luzz tell you to make this poll?
It doesn't sound very official, so I'd muster the assumption that he didn't.
It doesn't matter if enough people vote for you to come back, because you broke the rules.
Through experience, you don't do alot of swift learning, either.
Then again, Luzz is a Mercy Extremist. |
Actually yes, Luzz told me to make this thread asking on the communities opinion.
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