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Glenfiddich



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Marine: I like your strip shield idea.

May I add a few things. Lvl 1 strip shield, and instead of having chance to activate when attacking, have it as chance to activate when attacking or when casting a spell Smile

To whoever said 5 headgears slots destroy magic, I agree. It's just too many slots. =)

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All damage made increased 5% (Something to this sort). Damage received from everything increased by 10-15%?

Maybe not have this as an accessory, i dunno =S

Trav's assumptio helm i like, but i dont know if people will like cause it renders high priest card useless('ish). To a degree.
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Hollow/Vizard Mask
Slots: 1
Middle Headgear
All stats +3
Weight 100
Defense 3
Price 5 gcs
Class: any
Element: none.

3% chance of auto casting soul breaker(or meteor assault whatevers cooler) when dealing physical damage


Valk helm of Chaos
Slots: 2
Upper head gear
All stats +8
weight 100
defence: 3
price 15 gcs
class: any
element: none

3% change of auto casting ? skills (similar to flame lord ring) when dealing(or receiving, your choice i guess) physical damage.

Eternal Dragon wings
Slots:2
Lower head gear
all stats +8
weight: 100
defence 2
price 15 gcs
class any
element none

5% chance of auto casting random Bolt spell when attacking.

Saiyan Hair
Slots: 2
Upper head gear
All stats +10
weight 100
defence 3
Price 15 gcs
class any
element none

3% chance to auto cast level 5 or 6 provoke on yourself when you receive physical damage (similar to old school dragon helm, i miss it)

One winged angel (sephiroth wings)
Slots 2
Lower head gear
all stats +10
weight 100
defence 3
Price 15 gcs
class any
element none

5 or 10% chance to auto cast meteor when attacking (makes sense, since seppy summoned that in the game)


just some friendly suggestions.
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marine



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Glenfiddich wrote:
Marine: I like your strip shield idea.

May I add a few things. Lvl 1 strip shield, and instead of having chance to activate when attacking, have it as chance to activate when attacking or when casting a spell Smile

To whoever said 5 headgears slots destroy magic, I agree. It's just too many slots. =)

... Ring of Betrayal
Accessory
All damage made increased 5% (Something to this sort). Damage received from everything increased by 10-15%?

Maybe not have this as an accessory, i dunno =S

Trav's assumptio helm i like, but i dont know if people will like cause it renders high priest card useless('ish). To a degree.


it can be scripted to autocast stripshield while using magic , but then there could be problems while other classes non magic usin it like a uhmmm sniper with kasa card on manteu autocasting bolts may strip shield .
if one or another , allow strip shield level 1 would be the best.
i dont like the % dmg one altho the penalty make it kinda fair.


i lol at the asumptio helm since asump has like some aftercast delay , whoever will usin that will get more stun locked on skill than a amon ra user. XD
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Kiku-Ichiomonjii



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yea,same with the soul breaker one lmao
Thu May 06, 2010 4:34 am
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Bubbaknoxz



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Kiku-Ichiomonjii wrote:
Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Here this gives you some idea on what works for a Donation suggestion thread. Follow this format except put in your stats, sprite, skills and name.

Purple Heart Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, increase the effectiveness of Sanc, Potion Pitcher and Heal by 10%-15%.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.

Serenity Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, immune to stun, stone curse, sleep, confusion, or everything but freeze, curse, strip, critical wounds, external bleeding & coma.
Image: Valk Helm
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.


that second one is stupid as hell to me,immunity to almost EVERYTHING,
do i even need to list whats bad about that?


Immunity to almost everything??? Thats why there is 2 parts... You see that "or" it means one OR the other. Plus Wiki is your friend go read up on the status out there, I believe its 17 or so. Even with the 17 I think 2-3 are MVP only status. So the status I have listed above work perfectly well with the helm.

Frankly something should get immunity to everything, this is a mid-rate with easy access to status cards within the MVP room. You have LOD which has been stated before is an all in one status card, then you have Mistress who drops OCA's like no tomorrow. People aren't penalized for hunting these cards, trying to compare this mid rate to a low rate is a joke when it comes to status builds. Something that takes months to get on there takes literally hours on here. You say get rid of the MVP room now because this is offered, but your not suggesting a wipe with the MVP room removal.... Interesting, its like a cliche "I want more player's, but I dont want them to have access to what I have already." Brilliant! good thing you don't own a server Rolling Eyes

Last but not least, PLAYERS choice on whether they find the helm justifiable or not when they trade in their gear. Not everyone is going to use this helm, same way not many use the black helm, eternal helm, that dex helm etc. People may stay with their holy valks and call it a day. This helm isn't as powerful as some out there nor is it meant to be.


The only helm i agree with so far is the strip shield for mage classes. The other ones are just wow, stop catering to physical classes people they already have enough helms. Time to start helping the classes that don't have shit or is beneficial for every class.
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"The only helm i agree with so far is the strip shield for mage classes. The other ones are just wow, stop catering to physical classes people they already have enough helms. Time to start helping the classes that don't have shit or is beneficial for every class." Bubba.


i like my helms thank you very much. and mine could be used for mages to.In fact mine was just a general suggestion, it could be when dealing damage in general, magic or otherwise. its called Suggestions bubba. Mine are all open to change. And i would like to see more wings or helms to help everyone out. So stop criticizing people from their suggestions.
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Kiku-Ichiomonjii wrote:
Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Here this gives you some idea on what works for a Donation suggestion thread. Follow this format except put in your stats, sprite, skills and name.

Purple Heart Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, increase the effectiveness of Sanc, Potion Pitcher and Heal by 10%-15%.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.

Serenity Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, immune to stun, stone curse, sleep, confusion, or everything but freeze, curse, strip, critical wounds, external bleeding & coma.
Image: Valk Helm
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.


that second one is stupid as hell to me,immunity to almost EVERYTHING,
do i even need to list whats bad about that?


Immunity to almost everything??? Thats why there is 2 parts... You see that "or" it means one OR the other. Plus Wiki is your friend go read up on the status out there, I believe its 17 or so. Even with the 17 I think 2-3 are MVP only status. So the status I have listed above work perfectly well with the helm.

Frankly something should get immunity to everything, this is a mid-rate with easy access to status cards within the MVP room. You have LOD which has been stated before is an all in one status card, then you have Mistress who drops OCA's like no tomorrow. People aren't penalized for hunting these cards, trying to compare this mid rate to a low rate is a joke when it comes to status builds. Something that takes months to get on there takes literally hours on here. You say get rid of the MVP room now because this is offered, but your not suggesting a wipe with the MVP room removal.... Interesting, its like a cliche "I want more player's, but I dont want them to have access to what I have already." Brilliant! good thing you don't own a server Rolling Eyes

Last but not least, PLAYERS choice on whether they find the helm justifiable or not when they trade in their gear. Not everyone is going to use this helm, same way not many use the black helm, eternal helm, that dex helm etc. People may stay with their holy valks and call it a day. This helm isn't as powerful as some out there nor is it meant to be.


The only helm i agree with so far is the strip shield for mage classes. The other ones are just wow, stop catering to physical classes people they already have enough helms. Time to start helping the classes that don't have shit or is beneficial for every class.


sad thing is,you think your right :[
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT



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Bubbaknoxz wrote:

. You say get rid of the MVP room now because this is offered, but your not suggesting a wipe with the MVP room removal.... Interesting, its like a cliche "I want more player's, but I dont want them to have access to what I have already." Brilliant! good thing you don't own a server Rolling Eyes

You mean 3 Kiel cards VS none isnt ALREADY that situation? hmmmmmmmm
Bubbaknoxz wrote:

The only helm i agree with so far is the strip shield for mage classes. The other ones are just wow, stop catering to physical classes people they already have enough helms. Time to start helping the classes that don't have shit or is beneficial for every class.

THANKYOU
It would be nice not to be attacked by 20 LK's in one WoE for once because BB spam = God on this server.

Also, for you nay sayers who think BB spam = not god, have a quote from Fenix's LK guide
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3.1 LK in PVP
Some one once asked me how to be a good LK. i replied, BB BB BB BB and then BB some more.
this is what i left out.. you have to control the direction of the battle as soon as posible, meaning, put them in defense, keep them guesing, if your opponent dosent know what you're using he cant counter it. How to do that?
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
Bubbaknoxz wrote:

. You say get rid of the MVP room now because this is offered, but your not suggesting a wipe with the MVP room removal.... Interesting, its like a cliche "I want more player's, but I dont want them to have access to what I have already." Brilliant! good thing you don't own a server Rolling Eyes

You mean 3 Kiel cards VS none isnt ALREADY that situation? hmmmmmmmm
Bubbaknoxz wrote:

The only helm i agree with so far is the strip shield for mage classes. The other ones are just wow, stop catering to physical classes people they already have enough helms. Time to start helping the classes that don't have shit or is beneficial for every class.

THANKYOU
It would be nice not to be attacked by 20 LK's in one WoE for once because BB spam = God on this server.

Also, for you nay sayers who think BB spam = not god, have a quote from Fenix's LK guide
Quote:
3.1 LK in PVP
Some one once asked me how to be a good LK. i replied, BB BB BB BB and then BB some more.
this is what i left out.. you have to control the direction of the battle as soon as posible, meaning, put them in defense, keep them guesing, if your opponent dosent know what you're using he cant counter it. How to do that?


What in the blue moon did you just spew out? You made absolutely no sense at all.
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jay hes a LK hater.


and BB spam doesnt mean god.shesh. Hey grandpa, lets do a test. Let me BB you to death, see how you like that, then have a creator kill you with AD and kiels and well see what stacks up to this "god" you speak of.
AD spam is much meaner than BB spam, plus it breaks equips.
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dragonbug wrote:
jay hes a LK hater.


and BB spam doesnt mean god.shesh. Hey grandpa, lets do a test. Let me BB you to death, see how you like that, then have a creator kill you with AD and kiels and well see what stacks up to this "god" you speak of.
AD spam is much meaner than BB spam, plus it breaks equips.
Yet I rarely see a alchemist ingame, and GR + Valkyries shield + Raydric muffler = Acid demo???
WHAT ACID DEMO???
rape rape rape BB BB BB
Hell even with only the shield and Raydric muffler, Acid demo gets weak on my 255 Vit paladin =/
Also, if Alchemist = SOOOOOOOOO broken how come there are not as many of them as there are LK's?

LK can change element on the fly no problem, Acid demo can not.
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
dragonbug wrote:
jay hes a LK hater.


and BB spam doesnt mean god.shesh. Hey grandpa, lets do a test. Let me BB you to death, see how you like that, then have a creator kill you with AD and kiels and well see what stacks up to this "god" you speak of.
AD spam is much meaner than BB spam, plus it breaks equips.
Yet I rarely see a alchemist ingame, and GR + Valkyries shield + Raydric muffler = Acid demo???
WHAT ACID DEMO???
rape rape rape BB BB BB
Hell even with only the shield and Raydric muffler, Acid demo gets weak on my 255 Vit paladin =/
Also, if Alchemist = SOOOOOOOOO broken how come there are not as many of them as there are LK's?

LK can change element on the fly no problem, Acid demo can not.


cause LK is an easy class to grasp. i never said chemist was broken. I dont know what AD your taking but i know from personal experience that even with GR on, devling, and a pure helm i still got killed by the famous JO from SOS and bubba and jay and all them. BB can be neutralized too, you just have to know if their using neutral, earth, shadow, whatever.
Your acting like EVERYONE on this server uses nothing but LK and thats bs. Go into pvp and see how many sinx, or wizards there are. And who cares if theres LK running around ITS OUR CHOICE to pick whatever we want to play.

and the reason you dont see many chemist running around is AD is an expensive skill to use. its not used just on everyone man.
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There was around 4 or 5 Biochems when SOS played, just within the guild alone. No class is broken, it's called learning different techniques to counter your enemy.
/shy..

Also Dread, your combo to defeat a biochem there is kinda weak, might wanna check that out some more.
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NightShade wrote:
There was around 4 or 5 Biochems when SOS played, just within the guild alone. No class is broken, it's called learning different techniques to counter your enemy.
/shy..

Also Dread, your combo to defeat a biochem there is kinda weak, might wanna check that out some more.

might be weak but it works just fine for me
@ Dragon, WoE class mains != class mains in No mercy room.
Half the times I go into PVP its just people screwing around, when its WoE its all LK's all the time
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
NightShade wrote:
There was around 4 or 5 Biochems when SOS played, just within the guild alone. No class is broken, it's called learning different techniques to counter your enemy.
/shy..

Also Dread, your combo to defeat a biochem there is kinda weak, might wanna check that out some more.

might be weak but it works just fine for me
@ Dragon, WoE class mains != class mains in No mercy room.
Half the times I go into PVP its just people screwing around, when its WoE its all LK's all the time



well we obviously see different things then. i see more sinx, snipers, and wizzys. but whatever. im done arguing with you. this isnt the thread to even do this in ~.~
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