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Unown
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| marine wrote: | is right tht aesprika have better reduction but no one is takin on count tht usin a manteu as a example : Hode card 30% less for earth so far this reduce like aesprika , but my point is you eat a undead scroll and wolah tht 30% goes to a 50% . the same happens to wind . Fire and water get still more reduction because the valk shield .
likei said i already got used to this scrolls , but couldnt help no one said this of stack a manteu + the undead scroll .
another example a wizzy comes in a jt , i use wind manteu undead scroll and holy scroll . total reduction around 75%? eat wind resist pot raise it more , use headgear reductions it will keep raisin .
while aesprika would only give 30 to all and u cant stack the undead scroll over it (if it were removed)u woulndt get the 50%.
its understable whtim tryin to say?
if u ask me the only anoyin thing of the aesprika is the flee bonus .
Edit: i had understood luminous and regis quited , but this is off topic .. heh u still sell essence i will never feed a merchant. |
first paragraph, im pretty sure everyone knows at least that much about elemental switching.
second paragraph, no need to further explain something that everyone knows.
third paragraph, all i thought as i read it was "im smart arent i?"
forth paragraph, once again, aesprika effects are widely known by everyone that plays ro.....
fifth paragraph that was added, of course you dont, after all you have tons of donations, and can just buy your way into fame right?.
OVERALL that post was as pointless as this one.
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:13 am |
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Don't remove it!, its my precious items  i will be out of the game if holy and undead will be removed at this server. Cause i got no good card so i just preferring my reduction to holy and undead scroll 
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:26 am |
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| Unown wrote: | | marine wrote: | is right tht aesprika have better reduction but no one is takin on count tht usin a manteu as a example : Hode card 30% less for earth so far this reduce like aesprika , but my point is you eat a undead scroll and wolah tht 30% goes to a 50% . the same happens to wind . Fire and water get still more reduction because the valk shield .
likei said i already got used to this scrolls , but couldnt help no one said this of stack a manteu + the undead scroll .
another example a wizzy comes in a jt , i use wind manteu undead scroll and holy scroll . total reduction around 75%? eat wind resist pot raise it more , use headgear reductions it will keep raisin .
while aesprika would only give 30 to all and u cant stack the undead scroll over it (if it were removed)u woulndt get the 50%.
its understable whtim tryin to say?
if u ask me the only anoyin thing of the aesprika is the flee bonus .
Edit: i had understood luminous and regis quited , but this is off topic .. heh u still sell essence i will never feed a merchant. |
first paragraph, im pretty sure everyone knows at least that much about elemental switching.
second paragraph, no need to further explain something that everyone knows.
third paragraph, all i thought as i read it was "im smart arent i?"
forth paragraph, once again, aesprika effects are widely known by everyone that plays ro.....
fifth paragraph that was added, of course you dont, after all you have tons of donations, and can just buy your way into fame right?.
OVERALL that post was as pointless as this one. |
When i said i hope everyone get wht im trying to say it was .
idk how to put it since ur reply was just ofensive, because im just tryin to make a point i shall re xplain it .
let say the aesprika and no undead scrolls , very good 30% to all .
nowadays only usin manteus and undead scrolls u get 50% to 4 elements .
so i think its more harmfull the scrolls than the aesprika .
just leave ur opinion if im smart or im retarded should not concern u .
Im not sure everyone is aware of the elemental stuffs , so i ryed to exlain a bit just like luminous did and anyone here is trying to make , now if u are another hater tht hate sos , well nothing to say to you . |
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:27 am |
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| marine wrote: | | Unown wrote: | | marine wrote: | is right tht aesprika have better reduction but no one is takin on count tht usin a manteu as a example : Hode card 30% less for earth so far this reduce like aesprika , but my point is you eat a undead scroll and wolah tht 30% goes to a 50% . the same happens to wind . Fire and water get still more reduction because the valk shield .
likei said i already got used to this scrolls , but couldnt help no one said this of stack a manteu + the undead scroll .
another example a wizzy comes in a jt , i use wind manteu undead scroll and holy scroll . total reduction around 75%? eat wind resist pot raise it more , use headgear reductions it will keep raisin .
while aesprika would only give 30 to all and u cant stack the undead scroll over it (if it were removed)u woulndt get the 50%.
its understable whtim tryin to say?
if u ask me the only anoyin thing of the aesprika is the flee bonus .
Edit: i had understood luminous and regis quited , but this is off topic .. heh u still sell essence i will never feed a merchant. |
first paragraph, im pretty sure everyone knows at least that much about elemental switching.
second paragraph, no need to further explain something that everyone knows.
third paragraph, all i thought as i read it was "im smart arent i?"
forth paragraph, once again, aesprika effects are widely known by everyone that plays ro.....
fifth paragraph that was added, of course you dont, after all you have tons of donations, and can just buy your way into fame right?.
OVERALL that post was as pointless as this one. |
When i said i hope everyone get wht im trying to say it was .
idk how to put it since ur reply was just ofensive, because im just tryin to make a point i shall re xplain it .
let say the aesprika and no undead scrolls , very good 30% to all .
nowadays only usin manteus and undead scrolls u get 50% to 4 elements .
so i think its more harmfull the scrolls than the aesprika .
just leave ur opinion if im smart or im retarded should not concern u .
Im not sure everyone is aware of the elemental stuffs , so i ryed to exlain a bit just like luminous did and anyone here is trying to make , now if u are another hater tht hate sos , well nothing to say to you . |
ahh dont worry about it being offensive (although i cant see how it was), it was meant to purely say that your post wasn't really needed.
allow me to break down your reply post again since i love doing it.
1st paragraph : connection made with previous post to inform certain knowledge using a one paragraph phrase.
2nd paragraph : same as first
3rd paragraph : explaination of said item dealing with circumstances invovling an online game played by many.
4th paragraph : final structure meant to say that you were offended by certain words posted in previous post, connecting entire post to form better structure.
im sorry if it seemed offensive, i just saw that your post wasn't really needed as im sure everyone that plays knows about what your trying to explain.
btw from what your post just stated, about scrolls being more harmful than an aesprika, thats also wrong. with an aesprika, you dont have to worry about switching garments for other elements and im sure alot of people dont do element switches because its just annoying, im sure that this whole thread was just something to empower your guild to a higher advantage for pvp/woe.
btw on another note, i dont play anymore, i stopped like around the same time zebra did.
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:45 am |
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| marine wrote: | is right tht aesprika have better reduction but no one is takin on count tht usin a manteu as a example : Hode card 30% less for earth so far this reduce like aesprika , but my point is you eat a undead scroll and wolah tht 30% goes to a 50% . the same happens to wind . Fire and water get still more reduction because the valk shield .
likei said i already got used to this scrolls , but couldnt help no one said this of stack a manteu + the undead scroll. |
Undead Scrolls and Resist Potions both stack with aesprika. So in the end you end up with the same reduction and less manteau switching.
| marine wrote: | another example a wizzy comes in a jt , i use wind manteu undead scroll and holy scroll . total reduction around 75%? eat wind resist pot raise it more , use headgear reductions it will keep raisin .
while aesprika would only give 30 to all and u cant stack the undead scroll over it (if it were removed)u woulndt get the 50%. |
The sole purpose of aesprika being removed in the first place is that it crippled range(aka archer class/bow stalkers) and mage class the most. Like i said in before, aesprika and undead scrolls stack. |
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:28 pm |
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| Luminous wrote: | | marine wrote: | is right tht aesprika have better reduction but no one is takin on count tht usin a manteu as a example : Hode card 30% less for earth so far this reduce like aesprika , but my point is you eat a undead scroll and wolah tht 30% goes to a 50% . the same happens to wind . Fire and water get still more reduction because the valk shield .
likei said i already got used to this scrolls , but couldnt help no one said this of stack a manteu + the undead scroll. |
Undead Scrolls and Resist Potions both stack with aesprika. So in the end you end up with the same reduction and less manteau switching.
| marine wrote: | another example a wizzy comes in a jt , i use wind manteu undead scroll and holy scroll . total reduction around 75%? eat wind resist pot raise it more , use headgear reductions it will keep raisin .
while aesprika would only give 30 to all and u cant stack the undead scroll over it (if it were removed)u woulndt get the 50%. |
The sole purpose of aesprika being removed in the first place is that it crippled range(aka archer class/bow stalkers) and mage class the most. Like i said in before, aesprika and undead scrolls stack. |
The point of this sugest was . take out undead scrolls , remove em and then put aesprika i believe lot of pple included you misunderstood tht part.
edit : thinking about it , after 2 month i got used to the scrolls so i dont mind if aesprika keep blocked or not . |
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:36 pm |
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| marine wrote: |
The point of this sugest was . take out undead scrolls , remove em and then put aesprika i believe lot of pple included you misunderstood tht part.
edit : thinking about it , after 2 month i got used to the scrolls so i dont mind if aesprika keep blocked or not . |
if you actually understood what was being posted, then you yourself wouldn't need to post pointless junk, but since you insist on it, ill go about decyphering what is being said.
| Luminous wrote: | aesprika was implemented before the scrolls were released, scrolls only became available about a month later AFTER it (meaning aesprika) was taken out of pvp.
with just an aesprika, and the donation wings + headgears I can have 100% reduction from every element. I wouldn't even use the scrolls then. |
earlier you stated that he knew nothing about what was going on inside this topic, but clearly this shows an understanding which is why he intells to voice his own opinions as well as leave feedback, and evidence.
| Glenfiddich wrote: | | You cant have 100% reduction from every element at once. Only one. |
by replying back to luminous previous post, this shows that this person also understands so some extent as to what luminous was getting at.
| marine wrote: | is right tht aesprika have better reduction but no one is takin on count tht usin a manteu as a example : Hode card 30% less for earth so far this reduce like aesprika , but my point is you eat a undead scroll and wolah tht 30% goes to a 50% . the same happens to wind . Fire and water get still more reduction because the valk shield .
likei said i already got used to this scrolls , but couldnt help no one said this of stack a manteu + the undead scroll .
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please refer to my other posts before this.
| marine wrote: | let say the aesprika and no undead scrolls , very good 30% to all .
nowadays only usin manteus and undead scrolls u get 50% to 4 elements .
so i think its more harmfull the scrolls than the aesprika . |
goodjob explaining something you did in yuor previous one. care to share some more?
| luminous wrote: | | Undead Scrolls and Resist Potions both stack with aesprika. So in the end you end up with the same reduction and less manteau switching. |
i think he meant pvm (player vs monster)
| luminous wrote: | | The sole purpose of aesprika being removed in the first place is that it crippled range(aka archer class/bow stalkers) and mage class the most. Like i said in before, aesprika and undead scrolls stack." |
to make it simpler, it was more disadvantgous for sniper and wizard because you dont have to take the time to switch garments to reduce damage. whereas when it isnt there, a sniper or wizard you can easily switch elements as they could garments which gives a more fair advantage for pvp because of the guesing game you had to play as to what element to use next
| marine wrote: | | The point of this sugest was . take out undead scrolls , remove em and then put aesprika i believe lot of pple included you misunderstood tht part. |
im pretty sure anyone that knows how to read understands what this topic is about as the title easily explains it.
| marine wrote: | | edit : thinking about it , after 2 month i got used to the scrolls so i dont mind if aesprika keep blocked or not . |
honestly, we dont care if you've gotton used to something on a game, by posting that you just make your posts more and more repeditive.
if your still having trouble guessing at where im going, im trying to say that most of what you post is pointless as its already been posted, theres no need to repost something with slightly different wording.
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:34 pm |
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Instead of spending this time pointing out that Marine isn't bringing anything to the topic, you could, in fact, bring something to the topic yourself.
Where do you stand on it?
If you said it before, I didn't pay attention.
I didn't come here to climb a mountain of arguments/flame.
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:41 pm |
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| Zebruh wrote: | Instead of spending this time pointing out that Marine isn't bringing anything to the topic, you could, in fact, bring something to the topic yourself.
Where do you stand on it?
If you said it before, I didn't pay attention.
I didn't come here to climb a mountain of arguments/flame. |
where do i stand? i stand where i want to be of course >=)
besides i dont consider this flaming, this is more of just pointing out the obvious.
one more obvious thing, is that your post is also pointless no arguements there right?
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:44 pm |
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My argument was to further the point of the original topic, which your "wit" has so nimbly avoided and labeled as "spam," instead of seeing it for what it truly is.
Moving on.
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:49 pm |
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if that's all you have to say, then i highly doubt you were capalble of doing a reading anyalisis of every post that i've posted so far in this topic, in relevence to what your stating, your post state no other meaning than "please flame me because i have nothing better to do than to start flame wars which i think i can win"
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:52 pm |
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As always it pain me admit : actually zebruh is right since u started posted here it was only to go against everyword i said .
Im done with this , u are just here cus someone asked u for it and ur replies arent bringin anything ot the topic .. let wait wht other pple have to say about it ,
off topic : why u said this is bringed to give my guild more advantage on woe or pvp, when everybody would have the same item to equip . 2: how u know im in the same guild as the sugestion maker .
3: 1 year of retirement u dont know our guild then , how come u know we already have somewht "advantage" like haters like to call it . |
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:52 pm |
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I'm glad you have such a spectacular grasp on the English language, Unown.
Except for the contradictions in logic.
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...Moving on. |
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:55 pm |
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| Zebruh wrote: | | Zebruh wrote: |
...Moving on. |
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Moving as in shifting from one spot to another, and on as in whats currently happening. both of which you are incapable of doing, which is why you quote yourself which also means that you have self instability.
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| Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:57 pm |
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| Unown wrote: |
Moving as in shifting from one spot to another, and on as in whats currently happening. both of which you are incapable of doing, which is why you quote yourself which also means that you have self instability. |
Hypocritical troll is hypocritical.
The facts are:
You are not contributing to the topic. Never have.
We are trying to get you to stop flooding the topic with spam.
We have already contributed.
But you don't seem to get it.
Showing off your ability to use words to decipher others' meanings, when you can not decipher what you're really doing is a great start at being a hypocrite. A great career choice for yourself, I might add.
Since I have already put in my two cents for this topic, I suppose I shouldn't have to again. But since this chump seems to think that putting him on track is the same as "getting off track," I'll reiterate:
They're already here, and they can be used by anyone. No one has only one choice of element for attacking.
If you can only cast Holy Light, then you're a priest. Find a way around it.
Use melee if magic doesn't work, and vice versa.
No one is limited to the elements they can use.
Edit: Self instability? xD
Coming from the boy who has to fight someone in a topic that he can't speak in, solely because someone tried to get him on topic.
Fighting a lost fight is called "losing."
And if I were you, I'd get used to it.
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