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Should Dale be brought back to the server?
Yes!
51%
 51%  [ 21 ]
No!
48%
 48%  [ 20 ]
Total Votes : 41

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missdroplet2



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Zack Roger wrote:
but this isn't his second chance from what I've heard o-o :<


Well Zachababy!~ i changed. <3
Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:50 am
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wait what.. o-o I didn't say change what you thought it should be.. O_O Who are you >______>
Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:53 am
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SoS pulled something like this for Bubba didnt they, except there was no public poll? (the panda in jail signs is still on one of your forum peoples sigs)
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:56 am
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Zack Roger wrote:
wait what.. o-o I didn't say change what you thought it should be.. O_O Who are you >______>


hmm... i thought ppl could give him another chance apart of what he has gotten. =D

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Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:57 am
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I voted no. Here's why:

Dale screwed up. He admits he did. It is not as though anyone else forced him to edit sprites by holding a gun to his head. He did it of his own volition, even though it is against the rules. Ignorance of a rule is not an excuse. This in and of itself is more than enough for me to say no; even if someone 'convinced' him to do it, he still acted on his own. If he's now mature enough to accept that he did something wrong, then he was mature enough to act of his own free will. This also means he's mature enough to deal with the consequences of his behavior.

Regarding the appeals to emotion and sense of fairness: He may be young, and he may be learning, but that means it is even more important for him to understand the concept of consequences, and that they do apply. Lifting the ban would, as has been stated previously, allow him to think (even subconsciously) that breaking rules is alright as any consequence will be short lived. He must serve his time as anyone else should, and then come back to hopefully be a productive member of the server.

When I was his age, no one counted to three and stopped. I was punished, and it was explained to me why. As a result of this, I have no room in my heart for forgiving someone who did wrong and then wants to escape punishment by claiming reform: we've seen it before, we'll see it again, and not just on a private RO server.

Dale: I am sure you are attempting to better yourself, and I hope you really do want to be a productive member of this server. However, I am firmly of the opinion that your ban is deserved and it should be ridden out until it is over. Whether you are let back or your ban sticks, I hope your behavior has changed/will change for the better. Good luck.
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missdroplet2 wrote:
Hmm.. i voted yes.. just because i think dale deserve a last chance since someone said he's changed...We will be able to judge till then.. and if he misbehave again, luzz can always have him banned again.. God doesnt make everyone perfect.. xD


This. One thousand times this. Why can we not at least give him a probation period? 90 - days probation, if he so much as farts out of line, he's banned for good, no appeals.
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:58 am
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@people who said no.
is there something you guy's do not understand? that was then... this is now. thank you all for your opinions.
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:04 am
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Zack Roger



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...Dale YOU MODIFIED SPRITES!!! You should just do what they said and ride it out..
Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:06 am
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I Voted No.

Reasons:

Rude to me and other players numerous times.

Clearly Immature and says rude\disrespectful things. Sad thing is alot of people know of this and defend him cause he is young. *B/S*

Maybe once he has grown up and has shown he can be respectable player he can come back on like a probation.

Sorry, but honestly glad he is gone =/ I was tired of his Rudeness.

He shouldnt had messed with his sprites and he should learn his lesson and be banned like everyone else who gets banned.
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:07 am
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Zack Roger wrote:
...Dale YOU MODIFIED SPRITES!!! You should just do what they said and ride it out..


look, if you just came back from a ban, and your doing good, give me a good explanation why i can't.
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tehdarke wrote:
I Voted No.

Reasons:

Rude to me and other players numerous times.

Clearly Immature and says rude\disrespectful things. Sad thing is alot of people know of this and defend him cause he is young. *B/S*

Maybe once he has grown up and has shown he can be respectable player he can come back on like a probation.

Sorry, but honestly glad he is gone =/ I was tired of his Rudeness.

He shouldnt had messed with his sprites and he should learn his lesson and be banned like everyone else who gets banned.


as i said before, that was then, this is now.
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:09 am
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just think that you're the one who is being banned.

sometimes, it's easy to say then do. xD
all could says start a new server, move on and stuffs.
But your friends are all in there, there's surely something you will value in reign. and obviously all game have dramas, conflicts and misunderstandings.
it's all depends on ur mind on how you thinks.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:09 am
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A few weeks..? I'm still saying you should just accept what you did and wait.
Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:10 am
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Sekiria wrote:
I voted no. Here's why:

Dale screwed up. He admits he did. It is not as though anyone else forced him to edit sprites by holding a gun to his head. He did it of his own volition, even though it is against the rules. Ignorance of a rule is not an excuse. This in and of itself is more than enough for me to say no; even if someone 'convinced' him to do it, he still acted on his own. If he's now mature enough to accept that he did something wrong, then he was mature enough to act of his own free will. This also means he's mature enough to deal with the consequences of his behavior.

Regarding the appeals to emotion and sense of fairness: He may be young, and he may be learning, but that means it is even more important for him to understand the concept of consequences, and that they do apply. Lifting the ban would, as has been stated previously, allow him to think (even subconsciously) that breaking rules is alright as any consequence will be short lived. He must serve his time as anyone else should, and then come back to hopefully be a productive member of the server.

When I was his age, no one counted to three and stopped. I was punished, and it was explained to me why. As a result of this, I have no room in my heart for forgiving someone who did wrong and then wants to escape punishment by claiming reform: we've seen it before, we'll see it again, and not just on a private RO server.

Dale: I am sure you are attempting to better yourself, and I hope you really do want to be a productive member of this server. However, I am firmly of the opinion that your ban is deserved and it should be ridden out until it is over. Whether you are let back or your ban sticks, I hope your behavior has changed/will change for the better. Good luck.

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This shit isn't needed on this server. I heard about this in game and i'm voting no. He's broke the rules, Lied, and everything else, Everyone who plays ANY Ragnarok online server knows the rules, 90% of them say "NO EDITED GRFs" Only way this shit would pass is if he had a gun to his head, and I don't think that is true at all. Lol (Pics or it didn't happen) Dale's been banned many times for ether rude behavior or dis-obeying the rules. Don't give cheaters second chances. If ya can't do the time, Don't do the crime. Anyone with half a brain would agree with me.
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Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:11 am
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Zack Roger wrote:
A few weeks..? I'm still saying you should just accept what you did and wait.


and i'm saying give me a good explanation why i won't do good if i come back.
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