[Reign Online] - View topic - WOE Topic, traps, emperium health, skills, all that stuff

GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 641

Point still stands though, there are numerous counters to GR + Deviling, its exactly what all the mages get told when they say GTB is unbalanced, and its true in both cases.
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Treblig888 · Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 242 Location: Sweeny, Texas

can think of various ideas to try lol...just gotta be quick to thought while in heat of battle. could use champ or priest to pneuma help while LKS BB upper deck by standing close to the sides and have another crew working traps..and wizzy come in with priest and SG top deck (unless prof and land protector)..lol which i saw. anti-ad alchry with GTB and bragi woulda been nice. just a few ideas i had after that woe. still a biotch to get by heheh

no healing items in woe would be some crazy shit...till the idea of giggles and pancakes became popular, back then i think thats how it was any old player from this server would know...lol grown far from that kinda skill would require players to up their game^^ i likey<3
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sourlime · Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 380

Spamming Healing Items did not started because of AD Spamming. To be able to obtain the certain cards for AD Spamming is not a matter of seconds. Therefore, the spamming of Healing Items was created long before the Spamming of AD. However, the spamming of BB is also a factor toward farming for healing items. I am against the idea that healing items does not have any type of delay time or consequences. People are switching over to pancake since it heal more, but certain class still use giggling box since they weight less. The only down side to Pancake is making them is an ass.

Traps.... I hate trapping, but it doesn't mean that it's a good idea to make them indestructible. Putting one Sniper at each warp to trap, and then hide it in the corner. I would love to see how long it take to actually get to the Emp Room. Increasing the Health, so it take two Magnum Break would be nice.

If Luzz wanted to change GTB, this wouldn't be the 100th thread over it.

Emp HP, I remember that an old player told me that Luzz increase the Emp Hp before since it took only a blind of an eye to break emp. I'm pretty sure everybody here should know that Thanato and Gloom combo which break Emp in around 1 second or maybe less. I don't have much experience about this, maybe, Neo would be able to clear this topic of how many second it take.

If we allow the use of all skill. Steal would be a great skill. I remember someone asking me if they go to the pvp to steal items from the other player. Some skill were disable for a reason.
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Neo Genisis · Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 822 Location: Minnesota, USA

I break Emps in 2-3 seconds without having Emp Breaking daggers on. Thats right. Gloom, Cursed Water, EDP, and my regular Daggers. 2-3 seconds. If I geared up completely for a break, it would be 1 - 1.5 seconds. If I had an LK Card I would 2-3hit the Emp. Yeah, 2 - 3 hits.

Increasing the EMP HP is not a bad idea.

Allowing skills ~ Yes.

No HP / Higher HP Traps ~ Yes.

Change GTB ~ Yes, but it won't happen.

Change Errende Eccebe Card ~ Yes.

Healing Items ~ Yes I think we shouldn't allow anything that heals over 9%. Pancakes and other foods have no drawbacks to using. At least Giggles have a chance to curse you. And let's think about that for a second. First of all it only heals you 9% (I've been killed a bajillion times while giggling so they're not OP) and when you get cursed your ATK is cut by 25%, and if you stop giggle spamming to Panacea or something, you get raped. Also Giggles are farmed (and at a much lower drop rate than the Honey you need for Pancakes), while Pancakes and other food items can be 99% bought at the Mall.

GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 641

NightShade · Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 481

I would just like to clarify that Sprint Set is not really OP, it gives 20% ACD. Which isn't really a lot in terms of being able to spam. Yes it allows minimal reduction if used with the correct gears, however there's more to it than just that.
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 641

I never said sprint set was OP, just Acid Demo =P

But it does help alot. Its not a bad set even if you dont use a casting class.
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EdgarGrimfang · Joined: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 583 Location: The Internet

To answer the argument of those saying WoE shouldn't be about people rushing to the emp...

Its the application of modern warfare tactics to an outdated war time scenario. A quick surgical strike (emp rush) to bring down the desired target quickly, efficiently, and with minimal collateral damage (i.e. AD bottle use, healing item use, broken equips).

What I just described favors those with lesser numbers, it is a means to "even the odds" in a way. What cannot be beaten with equal or overwhelming firepower, will be beaten in another way.

Now, more often than not, the small strike force runs in, breaks the emp, and is then quickly overwhelmed by the guild they just took the castle from. The large guild that just had their castle taken instead, holes up by the emp, and waits last minute.

Whats the small force to do? Run in and kill everyone and protect the emp? No, more times than not, said larger guild holds them out, and last minute breaks the emp, and there was much rejoicing. (Yay.)

Everyone here speaks as if these Emp rushers are some unstoppable force of nature when they really are not. Pretty much everyone uses the aforementioned tactic to stave off emp runners, and 9 times out of 10, they (large power guild) end up keeping the castle.

To end it, sure, they may take your castle once or twice, your economy/defense rating will drop, no denying that, but in the end, you hold the castle. Isn't that enough? In war, there are casualties, in war there is ruination, it is the immutable law of war.

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Now, I'm fairly positive there are grammatical errors galore in my post, and I may strike a nerve with some. All that I ask is that you consider what I have just said, I'm not pointing fingers at any one guild/person (even if you'd like to believe so) and avoid turning this into an "Us versus Them" thread, or "Its him/her, so he is automatically wrong, so I'm gonna flame the ever loving shit out of them" flame war.

I'm already seeing that just a teeny bit, or maybe not, I am a wee bit paranoid after all, anyhow, I am liking some of the discussions, and concepts posted on here, lets keep it going!
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whiteseaocean · Joined: 08 Sep 2010 Posts: 498 Location: somewhere

lol ed rants got to love them tho he does have a point...somewhere in all that
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT · Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 641

We also have the fact that this is a higher rate server, anyone can gain any money and fix economy in a second very easily.

To make all this "For the sake of economy" seems kind of trivial, as you can make 40 mill a day easily if your dedicated enough. Even more through MVP rooms, etc etc etc.
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sourlime · Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 380

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I believe I got a 4 second break on my iRO sinx once.
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