[Sephiroth7500]

Well, if I have to expand it, sure.

Champions: FO Spam.
Stalkers: Whatever you copy / DS Spam.
Snipers: DS Spam.
Knight Lords: BB Spam.
Ninja: Lightning Spear of Ice Spam.
Mages: Whatever works for whichever spam skill they wanna use.
Alchemists: AD Spam.
Even though Blacksmiths are rare, they got CT Spam.

So just about every class has spam, and to whoever said it was made for the iRO server, I also agree with you. Because in iRO your can't spam shit like how we are in this server. But, that's what this poll is for, choosing whether or not to implement them, this doesn't mean the GMs will or will not though, so just put your opinion in, and let's keep this a drama-less thread, thanks.
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[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

[Sephiroth7500]

I understand you can counter stuff and all, I'm just saying that most of the skills are really overpowered, I wasn't just talking about the Alchemist ones alone.
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[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

Im just saying,
Difference between A-Bomb and a Nuke
1/2 of a second and detoxing if your un/lucky
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[ShadowNguyen91]

*pops in here* Okay, lets all settle down here. This has happened once before already when 2nd Jobs were first released (I believe the server had opened after that.) everyone probably threw a fit about them but after awhile they accepted them. This will be exactly the same way. Everyone's complaining now but soon after everyone will change their mind, and if you're that concerned about PvPI'm sure Luzz or Skye could easily change the coding of one of the PvP rooms for 3rd class only.
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[magbolt123]

Nice one Shadow!
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[jogradz1225]

I would just like to point out that its the Renewal System that makes the 3rd classes and their skills imbalanced. I played the 3rd classes, I posted those facts, yes, the system sucks, there is no insta cast because even if you got like 10 million dex, you'd still cast .2 secs and its the fastest, which means provoke can cancel your cast if you're not wearing any item that prevents cast canceling. which means it makes all magic users and melee fighters not being able to cast their skills. wtf? did i say melee fighters? YES, isaid melee fighters, because believe it or not, most of the 3rd class skills have Cast time. Ignition Break of the Rune Knight, Axe Boomerang of the Mechanic, Reflect of the Royal Guard, and all else, the most pwerful transformation is with the Bishop. having Offensive spells that could take Baphomet and Satan Morroc ( i still think he's Gay) down to their Knees begging you to stop attacking. The Bishop has 2 skills Very High Damage Dealing spells that destroys mobs like butter being thrown in the Furnace. plus the Party Buff and Party Heal skills, yes, everyone in the party, in the screen of the Bishop gets buffed and healed without clicking the avatars anymore.

so I like 3rd classes, but not the Renewal System. IT REALLY SUCKS!!
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[jogradz1225]

[GlitchyVirus]

[Xzerostu]

the mechanic skills is basicaly as powerful if not more than, then tracking. There powerslide lets them backslide and forward slide 10 squares. So much for high jump being taken out having a purpose right?
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Break it down with scorpion

[Sephiroth7500]

Well, no other debates will change anything.



Luzz says he'll implement it either way, so.
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Reneshin ~ 255 Knight Lord



Reneshin ~ 255 Knight Lord

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[Glenfiddich]

Any neutral based element skill already puts the user at a disadvantage.
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[jogradz1225]

so Asura is already at a disadvantage?

it is neutral afterall, nothing can be done about that ^_^
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[Sephiroth7500]

Hopefully the 3rd classes won't go TOO overkill. :O
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Reneshin ~ 255 Knight Lord



Reneshin ~ 255 Knight Lord

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[jogradz1225]

basically, the 3rd classes are improvements of the Transcendent classes, 'cause their skills revolve around where they were weak in Transcendence. The Master Smith Having Axe Boomerang, the Bishop having the party buff and heal, the Rune Knight having the Runes [Crush Strike is the Best!!], Royal Guard being able to Reflect [ALL] attacks except Reflect Shield and Pressure, the Genetic having AoE skills instead of having one point targets, and the Sura having AoE skills as well...

so, the skills they have are to cover their weaknesses from being Transcendent, amplifying what power they have and dishing out the damage required to kill mob or player. seriously, the Dimensional Gorge and Thor's Volcano is imbalanced in regards to player vs. mobs where the mobs win most of the time, if it wasn't for Angra the Thor's would be hell for most players. even a party with High Priests would fail if their levels are up to 120 limit, having delay on heal is just hell. so I hope the 3rd classes roll out well...

Ren, dont be afraid of change, its part of life, its not everyday that you always win and keep what you've grown into, be brave, face the future, for all we know Gravity might change everything again, remember, Nydhogg is not finished yet, the MVP and miniboss in Nydhogg's dungeon need 3rd classes to dish out quick and huge amounts f damage...

you're also using 3rd class sprites which makes you hugging it a bit ^_^ don't we all?
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