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Glenfiddich



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Someone said it wasn't made for pvp and woe. It doesn't change the fact it is used for pvp and woe.

Status going through gtb? I'm neutral on that, don't care what way it goes really.

+100 MDEF is intriguing. Not easily counterable but still doable.

Someone compared thana to gtb. Thanas equivalent is not gtb. It is a rod or something like that.

No other card can do what gtb does. Destroy classes and cards.

I think we should start with the strip idea and see how that pans out.
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Well if you had stated WoE, then that would make things differt. I dont believe in that either though, we fought gtb in woe with revelations. and we did just dandy.
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Gtb in woe, I believe, is balanced. There's is so much teamwork and variety that putting on a gtb can be very disadvantaging.

But with pvp, when very often it is 1 on 1 settings or very small groups (in our server here), it throws things out of whack.
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@Glen
The status thing just seemed better then doing only 800 minuscule damage to a LK, thats why I thought it up, other then that +1 to what you said.
@Xzero
It still makes a huge crapton difference, certainly more then it should.
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If changes were made at all, kiku and mutts idea would be most reasonable I think. +100 MDEF

Although I'd like just to see it out of pvp and still allowed in woe really. Melée classes do just fine vs magic even when they don't have gtb.
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hi all in my opation GTB is fine in WoE for one good reason * hardly anyone one is alone in woe at one point or other* if you are a magic class am pretty sure if you met someone with GTB youll have someone by you whos not a magic class to deal with the GTb user GTB has its pros and cons like was said eailyer i say leave GTB be
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Arty - exactly why it should stay just as it is for woe.
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just agreeing with you and others =3
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
thats where GTB is causing such a shit storm

Gtb isn't causing storm. Your causing that storm
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Hm... I think it's okay because having a GTB to me is actually a disadvantage. I'm normally running around with my Mage guildies and hitting people for fun, and when they use GTB they don't have that little 30% protection against my attacks, so I kinda think it's fine to leave it as it is, but it's just my opinion.
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Xarrow wrote:
GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
thats where GTB is causing such a shit storm

Gtb isn't causing storm. Your causing that storm


He didn't create the other 7 gtb threads. Not to mention the threads from the old rain.
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My reply to you Rene.

Glenfiddich wrote:
Gtb in woe, I believe, is balanced. There's is so much teamwork and variety that putting on a gtb can be very disadvantaging due to many melée and the less 30% damage

But with pvp, when very often it is 1 on 1 settings or very small groups (in our server here), it throws things out of whack.

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Glenfiddich wrote:
My reply to you Rene.

Glenfiddich wrote:
Gtb in woe, I believe, is balanced. There's is so much teamwork and variety that putting on a gtb can be very disadvantaging due to many melée and the less 30% damage

But with pvp, when very often it is 1 on 1 settings or very small groups (in our server here), it throws things out of whack.


Eh... Sorry there were lots of long posts I didn't read them all, sorry Glen D:
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No no lol. I just meant that's what my reply was lol wasn't being cruel or anything.
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Xzerostu wrote:
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-Meets GTB lk, what do you do?. You pot, you soul burn another person take there sp, and then give it to the lk or if you soulburn your sp give it to the lk, regen make it possible to do all of this in safety wall.


I'd like to see that,ive tried it, safety wall breaks almost insta

Xzerostu wrote:
I dont know where you get your figures, and im surprised glen of all people would side with getting rid of gtb or saying ninja are over powered, ive seen that dude spank the monkey against those things, and hes no noob, we all can or have at some point its not impossible. This isnt a big deal and probly wont change. If it was going to, it would have in the almost 3 years the server has been here.


Id like to see ninja buffed if anything. They suck when you know how to fight, which isnt hard. A harder aoe skill at least. never said they were op.
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