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Glenfiddich



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Cad, I love my gtb. I just think it's silly lol. As I said before, it is very well balanced in large group settings as there is so much variety. But one on one, you can't argue it's op lol.

Try using your ring of flame lord versing a lord knight, assassin cross etc...

You shouldn't have to class swap, you'd like to think you have some sort of chance. Even battles are fun...
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT



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Glenfiddich wrote:

You shouldn't have to class swap, you'd like to think you have some sort of chance. Even battles are fun...

QFT
Dont get me wrong, I slightly agree with you Mono, yes you do need to change gears, cards, etc, but the fact you HAVE to class swap, making a character that you wasted how much time getting to 255, dumping all the time it took you to make said card set, or else just insta die, is kind of a sign of imbalance right there isnt it?



I dont see ANYTHING that makes a LK or Paladin player HAVE to class swap / character switch,not even a AD creator, and according to your words if its fair to use on us, shouldnt it be fair to force it on the LK?
Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:15 am
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
I dont see ANYTHING that makes a LK or Paladin player HAVE to class swap / character switch,not even a AD creator, and according to your words if its fair to use on us, shouldnt it be fair to force it on the LK?


Vote.

If played properly, in an equal setting you do not need to swap from a lord knight.

There are so many factors that force a class change on a magic class it's not funny. It should have stopped at elemental reducing, and at the furthest extent, stopped at Maya. Because let's face it, alot of us players have Maya, it's not hard to hunt.
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i have maya and love it, never take it off but it is bull sh*t
i dont even have to fight back relly
so gtb is real bull shit
and magic classes have way to many down falls speshaly a ninja vs any thing with maya and more hp thean the ninja
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agreed lol
Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:01 am
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I think having one character that can do it all, is silly, we have 12 character spots for a reason, No Class can do it all, thats like giving sniper the ability to bypass pnuema because pnuema makes ranged useless, all it takes is some blue bots and bhyn and ur set against range.

LK's And Paladins are extemley flawed. Thats why there are characters made to exploit those flaws, gtb just eliminates some of those flaws. and what does gtb give back to you, an sp drainer from hell which isnt that bad but still its not perfect.

Paladins can be delt with all in the same, i think the idea of not having gtb isnt a bad one, but its definitly not a bad to have it either, its in the game and its hard as fk to get on real servers, this server has a bit boosted of a rate, for which the game was not intended.

I think class switching is great every class has a use but you have to make more then one to beat them all.
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On a server with 255+ stats, yes a LK can do it all and beat them all,
Damage Dealer
Psuedo Emp Breaker (hit something long enough, it will break)
Tank
Can Ignore Magic
Can Ignore ranged (Who DOESNT have a anti arrow clip these days)
Only cant ignore Physical
Only has a real problem with Full Strip, and we all have creators that can FP a LK up so he is invincible aside from Physical damage.


What this all means?
LORD KNIGHTS MASSES AND MASSES OF LORD KNIGHTS AND MAYBE ONE CREATOR FOR EVERY 3 LK'S!!! Gee, kind of like the server is right now >_> and like Glen said, IRO banned it, THE OFFICIAL SERVERS BANNED THIS CARD! No-one finds that just a wee bit suspicious its not banned here? (Seeing as I thought our motto here was to be as close to Official RO's as much as possible)
Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:15 am
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LKS even with GR can be beat with bragi and kiels, nothing and i do mean not a damn thing is invinicble, thers other lks, paladins who are skilled. It varrys so much that it doesnt matter.
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So basically your saying is

"So what if your class is useless, get someone else to do your dirty work for you while you sit there being useless you dumb non LK nub"

And yes, things CAN be made invincible, you just need to spam the right items and skills, no its not cost efficient, and sure it doesnt last forever, but its certainly do-able.
Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:26 am
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No do it your damn self by using your another one of your possible 12 characters
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT



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AKA
"Make your own LK, Spam bowling bash, hope you beat him."


Anti Ranged and GTB and Reductions and reflect makes

Professor
Wizard
Stalker
SinX
Sniper
Champ
Priest
WhiteSmith
TaeKwan
Gunslinger
Ninja

all useless, and all these items can be put on a LK, and last I checked Paladins dont beat LK's for the same reason of reductions, and reflect, and Zerking so thats 11/13 classes save a Acid Demo spamming creator.
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Again meet me on half of those classes with what you listed, and ill show you how wrong you are ^_-
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT



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Prof = GTB
Wiz = GTB
Stalker = Build dependant but Anti Arrow Clip, GTB or Reflect armor / FP
SinX = REFLECT TO THE MAX
Sniper = anti Arrow clip
Champ = Neutral resist and anti ranged clip and reflect
Priest = GTB/Holy resist
Whitesmith = Reflect / FP
Taekwan = reflect
Gunslinger = Anti Arrow Clip
Ninja = GTB
Paladin = Reflect + a few SP and HP recovery items
Sure some classes can work around some shit, buts its generally a bad idea to do Occult Impact with your champ on a LK who has Deviling + Reflect + Anti arrow clip.

And I have only mention Armor/Accessory/Shield slots, I havent said anything about headgears, weapons, skills, the second accessory slot, or what have you the LK can equip.
Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:50 am
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All avoidable
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And what magical daisy fruity lollipop world are you living in where "all that" is "avoidable" in a 1v1???
Please go ahead and enlighten me since I cant seem to do it myself according to your standards, the only ones that become suddenly "viable" in a 1v1 is a stalker or a whitesmith or creator VS LK without his FP seeing as its 1v1.
Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:07 am
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