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AbaraiGirl



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poringhunter wrote:
my vote for this is NO coz i dont have much zeny and i dont have problems with @main


not hard to raise 300k

that's like 15-20 diamond rings from geffenia...

or

6 stones of sage...


yeah not hard at all..
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Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:10 am
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Fairly lazy to read everyones posts and such but, Bubba's idea is good and be great to add to the server. There are flames in @main and it would cost them the money for the messege uptop meaning not a lot of flaming. I just dissagree on the price...i think it should be high.

Yes.
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MrFailgasm wrote:
I just dissagree on the price...i think it should be high.

Yes.

Best part I have heard yet.
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GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
MrFailgasm wrote:
I just dissagree on the price...i think it should be high.

Yes.

Best part I have heard yet.


there could also be people who cant afford it and its just message that broadcasts through everyone in the server does 1 mil seem reasonable? i dont think so, i feel the regular price is perfectly fine.
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Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:00 am
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Well you want it the be affordable to members just starting on the server. 1m will be a lot, and 300k will be reasonable for both new players and old players.

People must not think of themselves when it comes to suggestions, we must include people who will probably join the server later on. Just because we have zeny out the wazoo doesn't mean they will when they join.
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It is my opinion that the main chat service is quite an acceptable way for players to remain connected to the rest of the online users without having to hang around in Prontera. To create an NPC for it instead defeats the purpose for anyone who wants to utilize server-wide chat while in a dungeon or field. (Or even another part of town, for that matter.) Sad

I don't believe that creating an inconvenience for every user to speak via main chat is worth the benefit of not having to read angry messages from other users either to myself or others. I doubt that a monetary inconvenience will even affect the amount of flammable Laughing messages.

In addition, the proposition that Guild or Party chat would be used as an alternative if main chat were disabled is slightly redundant. This alternative already exists, in that if you turn off "Public Chat Display" in the Battle Message Window Display, main chat no longer shows up. It has already been stated that @main contains on/off commands.

Bubbaknoxz wrote:
People must not think of themselves when it comes to suggestions, we must include people who will probably join the server later on.


I realize this partial quote refers to the amount of zeny an NPC would require to use in a broadcast-type system, and I might be taking it out of context.

But to this specific sentence, I disagree; suggestions to change server details should always include ourselves. After all, we are the ones who are affected. If someone new to the server disagreed with a policy we had decided on, then I would be proud to explain to him that the server utilizes these forums in order to allow such topics be brought up for the purpose of maintaining that our server feels like "ours" (with the exception that everything remain balanced).

On that note, which of these advertisements would you think that a new player would rather see?

"We offer a way to talk to everyone on the server, but you must click repeatedly on an NPC, and it costs 300,000 money units per message!"

"We offer a free and simple command to chat on one channel with everyone on the server at the same time!

My opinion on a broadcast NPC for the purpose of buying, selling, or trading is undecided. (Because if main chat is still operational, this is unnecessary).
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Well you want it the be affordable to members just starting on the server. 1m will be a lot, and 300k will be reasonable for both new players and old players.

People must not think of themselves when it comes to suggestions, we must include people who will probably join the server later on. Just because we have zeny out the wazoo doesn't mean they will when they join.


That's true but I was more thinking of...if the higher level people who can make the money fast;. get to that they can just spam and spam...

I just thought of this while typing, would it be a good odea to make the price depending on the level? Like you do for the reset NPC? That and add a possibleamount of things in a certain period of time would help?


--Even though the numb people who are spamming rudes will just remake a char
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MrFailgasm wrote:
--Even though the numb people who are spamming rudes will just remake a char


That's easy to override.
A level minimum could be in place, much like with the bank.
Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:22 am
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Minimum level and a limit on how many messages you may send every so often. Say once every 5 minutes? 5 minutes is not horribly long, but it would give the person a chance to cool off and think about what they say. (This is for the flamers on @main mostly)

Also how would we regulate the use of each type of broadcast? I mean what if someone just used the seperate broadcasts to say whatever, and not specifically for events or Buying/Selling? Just a thought~

I still like this idea though =3. Of course I'm biased, as an event-holder-type-person ^_____^
Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:59 am
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If you flame with the NPC, you will be muted for your first offense. second offense jail, third offense is ban for a week. After that a month you get the idea.

If you want to spam FS,WTB, Events, well its your zeny you can do with it as you please they just have to keep it on check, 5 in a row within a span of 1 minute chances are you need a hobby.

Level cap is a great idea, 255 to use would be perfect. Zenny will be increase to 500k per use, does that work better? Its a middle ground I think.
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You have my vote at a YES 100% -- Good Job Persuading ~~~
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:
If you flame with the NPC, you will be muted for your first offense. second offense jail, third offense is ban for a week. After that a month you get the idea.

If you want to spam FS,WTB, Events, well its your zeny you can do with it as you please they just have to keep it on check, 5 in a row within a span of 1 minute chances are you need a hobby.

Level cap is a great idea, 255 to use would be perfect. Zenny will be increase to 500k per use, does that work better? Its a middle ground I think.


ha ha..i was just going to suggest raising the price to 500k.

i'm not too fond of constantly having colored text popping up on my screen...because it annoys me.

but i vote yes on this anyway...if it means less arguments and drama in @main
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MAPLE123 wrote:
GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT wrote:
MrFailgasm wrote:
I just dissagree on the price...i think it should be high.

Yes.

Best part I have heard yet.


there could also be people who cant afford it and its just message that broadcasts through everyone in the server does 1 mil seem reasonable? i dont think so, i feel the regular price is perfectly fine.


I think it shuld be one mil, its called not being lazy or borrowing money Smile
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Joker as bubba said before there could be possible new players that are low levels...so they wouldn't be able to afford it...and it will be a large problem because a lot without donations will struggle to get the money
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How's about:

1. Must be level 100+ to use broadcast.
2. Total cost is proportionate to your current max zeny (account total zeny if possible), with a minimum cost of x amount of zeny to stop people from clearing characters of zeny for cheap broadcast. So, the richer you are, the more it costs.
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