[dragonbug]

grandpa seriously chill out. OK this gtb debate will rage on for YEARS. but it just needs to be left alone. ITS A MVP CARD...check...YOU HAVE TO HUNT IT...check..OR BUY IT...check... PEOPLE WILL HAVE IT...check.
If it was something you could buy at the all id understand this. And i do have a mage character so dont be all. pif you only play melee so you wouldnt understand~. i do. but i just dont sit around curing the interwebs cause i cant cast a spell. and Mages in woe are very effective, as stated before NOT EVERYONE WEARS THEIR GTB all the time.

but as people have said dont rely on just one class~ if someone has a gtb, get around it. Plus ill let you know right now as a seasoned LK that even getting soul burned a BG spear will take you out licky split..plus we can just use box of panting or blue pots


STOP ACTING LIKE GTB IS THE END ALL CARD!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Xzerostu]

This suggestion i made for dispell and the shield strip 1, isnt my favorite idea, but i think its a good one due to the fact that listen to these people who want gtb changed. This is a compromise that doesnt change gtb at all hardly. People would barley notice just DISPEL going through it. And Glens strip shield level 1 one donate idea, i think is a good one regardeless. If there had to be ANY change to gtb, this sounds perfectly reasonable.
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[Glenfiddich]

People seem to forget that reducers and Maya are rampant and a big enough challenge for magic classes as it is.

I can get about 5 or so people on to vote yes, possibly more, if that will make a difference.

I am all for my donate item.

Grandpa, I did not say lk can still poke Mage with no sp, any melée can.

Cad, you said you would understand if they were for sale at the mall... I had access to approximately 6 gtb at one stage, if I needed one. They are very common now and not only that, just because some people don't have one, alot of people can still borrow one.
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[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

Well, Paladin with 0 SP, not shut down but it will be a much more fair fight
Champ/priest without SP...... heheheheheh *evilface*
SinX/Stalker without SP, depends on what he got off before you SB'd him and what his build is.
Archers/clowns without SP.... third only to champs/Ninja without SP, and with bows and arrows if they switch to GTB they doomed
Mage/Prof without SP, they wont be in dire situations, but it does help and they wont be spamming anything even if they have 3X Kiels
GS w/o SP.... hilarious, add in a anti arrow clip and you're golden but if he has a GTB on he is failing anyways
Ninja... this is a huge shutdown on them.

(I should also mention on my old server Pantings / Blue pots were removed from ranked PVP of any type aside from random duels, so LK's couldnt pop one then get going again with a free insta heal at double HP, and be the most dominating class, this also screwed pure asura build champs over and soul burn happy professors, but the risk was well worth it)

Also @Glen, get those people please =D

[Xzerostu]

lets not get off topic, this isnt about soul burn
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[dragonbug]

i stand by my argument. its a card. we hunt it. deal with it. its not over powered. it doesnt need to be changed ~.~.

and i said i was for the strip whatever idea.
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[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

Its very overpowered, imagine if we had a physical variant of that card.
Would it be overpowered then by your terms? Sure and absolutely, why? because it would make a LK have to change class >_>

Shoe always fits on the other foot.

[dragonbug]

[GRANDPA DREADNAUGHT]

Then why were you so against it in the other thread we suggested it in?
You people all have such a hissy fit about any other class that they all get nerfed or said skills get dumbed down or taken out of WoE, but when something might effect a LK negatively in the most minute way possible such as this idea for this poll, so that way there might be more diversity in the pllayer base (which you seem to want if I'm not mistaken) you all defend it with your lives and object to it and say no =/

You all say "no its such a crappy card dont nerf it more" Yet we have atleast 30 people running around with them on all the time in WoE or PVP and abusing the everliving crap out of it.

[Xzerostu]

Okay i disagree, i think people want things to change as little as possible, due to change meas this and that. Well people this change causes this argument. So ide really like it if both you and dragonbug, dont post anymore to each other. Even if one attacks the other. I want the thread taken seriously.

Dispell > FCp
GTB allow Dispell
Strip shield 1 idea.
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[Glenfiddich]

[Xzerostu]

there is skill in knowing when you cant win, and you need to change.
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[Xzerostu]

all of you are defeating the purpose.

this idea is so that gtb isnt changed. and theres a way around it.

Its a compromise so please appreciate it, and say yes or no. Not argue.
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[dragonbug]