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| Glenfiddich wrote: | | Minstrel (large boost). They used to be half decent if Now with the delay on songs its like lame. |
Cladius, i said they used to be half decent. Do you really think if the link reduced the delay cause you were bragi'ing yourself that i would have them on the list?
Even with link and bragi'ing yourself, there is still delay on songs. It was changed a while back now. They now suck, even with a link.
The delay on songs such as bragi are absolutely unchangeable, it's like 3 or 5 seconds or something
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| Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:03 am |
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well SLs are mostly useless...them having attack skills other then their TK skills would kinda be awsome
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| Glenfiddich wrote: | Hi guys,
I am here to suggest, not nerfs, but in fact, boosts to some certain classes. Cause guys, lets face it, alot of reason some classes aren't played is simply because they suck. I would like to see more of a variety, especially in pvp, instead of the usual few classes.
Ninja (slight boost)- I was thinking maybe boosting the damage of their only aoe skill, maybe 500%. Cause as it stands ninjas are pathetic, especially if you know your elements, or even better, have a maya.
Minstrel (large boost)- Plain and simple - they suck. They used to be half decent if you knew what you were doing and had good gears. Now with the delay on songs its like lame. I don't know how to boost them, but they definitely need a boost. This is where people could maybe suggest.
Taekwon Classes (mid boost)- Errr, need i say more? Suggestions here?
I have a few more classes to add but i am out of time, i gotta go to work, ill add some more later if i can think of some. Be much appreciated if people gave their opinions. I would just like to see more of a variety of characters in game.
How these changes are made i really don't know, but i think something can be done here, though. |
i wouldnt be back if i wont be arguin with u , ninjas are fine for be so easy to lvl spamable bolts , ranged atks and final strike among with one of the best self buffs on the game ciceda and tht shadow jutsu.
minstrels their songs are still able to be instant stoped by switchin violins .
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All 3 of ninjas bolts can be reduced dramatically and with a maya they are screwed. Final strike is a two edged sword, only you'll end up dying half the time and they won't. Being left with 1hp and 1sp can never be good especially if it is a hp class they are final striking. Cicada is good but not great.
Minstrels, that aside, they still suck and are too easy to kill.
If they were fine more people would be playing them. They are good, yes, BUT! Other classes are much better. Like seriously o.o
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yea...it's not very often but i sorta see more supernovices then i do bard/minstral ._. now THAT'S scary...
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| Glenfiddich wrote: | | Yes wolf, I am talking about blaze shield, the 5*5 square. It's really their only aoe skill pretty much. |
Sorry to disagree with you about this Glen, but the ninja class has more than just the blaze shield as an AoE. They also have the 3rd ice skill, Lightning Crash (which is a spam skill with NO cool down.) and Dragon Fire Formation (It's a 9x9 around the caster). So the ninja's AoE skills are pretty good, plus if you don't wanna go with magic you could go with a Final Strike build (which would require Tao to do serious damage and a pally on hand to save your skin in WoE.), or you could work with a "throw" build. I can't really say much about the TKs or the Bard/Clowns since I don't play them, so they may be in need of an upgrade (I think the clowns should be based on how few of them there are these days.)
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Thanks for input dogg. As for ninja aoe skill, although damage is aoe, all of those skills apart from blaze shield still get reflected by Maya. Even lightning crash which beats me why. So only pure aoe skill is blaze an that's crap
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I think none of the new classes really need help, nor do I think minstrel's need help.
Minstrel I say one word "Kiels"... need I say more?
Ninja, cicada, tatame, are strong skills, against a player without a gtb and maya ninja wins a majority of the time. Even then you have shadow slash, ts, tk, which are all very good moves.
TK/SG, they can spam moves if ranked, hell they are good just ppl need to know how to play them.
Soul linker, are MVP raper's, and support. granted they can do well in pvp.
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | I think none of the new classes really need help, nor do I think minstrel's need help.
Minstrel I say one word "Kiels"... need I say more?
Ninja, cicada, tatame, are strong skills, against a player without a gtb and maya ninja wins a majority of the time. Even then you have shadow slash, ts, tk, which are all very good moves.
TK/SG, they can spam moves if ranked, hell they are good just ppl need to know how to play them.
Soul linker, are MVP raper's, and support. granted they can do well in pvp. |
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| Glenfiddich wrote: | All 3 of ninjas bolts can be reduced dramatically and with a maya they are screwed. Final strike is a two edged sword, only you'll end up dying half the time and they won't. Being left with 1hp and 1sp can never be good especially if it is a hp class they are final striking. Cicada is good but not great.
Minstrels, that aside, they still suck and are too easy to kill.
If they were fine more people would be playing them. They are good, yes, BUT! Other classes are much better. Like seriously o.o |
hmm well not all classes are made to run into the fray of battle and just rape..every class has their weakness and what not. its all about learning your character man. and minstrels are freaking wonderful back up class. thats what their made for. and when or if the 3rd class skills get released they will be feared. and ive fought ninjas that dont just rely on magic over and over. just saying..everyone plays a bit different.
if your going to improve some classes need to improve all.
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | Minstrel I say one word "Kiels"... need I say more? |
The kiel effect bragi gives is almost hopeless on a minstrel himself. The pitiful damage arrow vulcan does can never be spammable. You get 2 arrow vulcans in then you still get your big delay.
Tarot card has a delay even with bragi/kiels. And even with the better spam speed, by the time you get a good stat on someone, they have already killed you anyway.
Only thing that can be spammed is frost joke and if they have unfrozen, problem solved.
| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | Ninja, cicada, tatame, are strong skills, against a player without a gtb and maya ninja wins a majority of the time. Even then you have shadow slash, ts, tk, which are all very good moves. |
I only asked for a slight boost in ninja, but i will drop ninja side of things now anyway.
| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | TK/SG, they can spam moves if ranked, hell they are good just ppl need to know how to play them. |
Yes, they can be good, thats not the problem. Its that other classes are far, far better.
How can you tell me a bowling bash lord knight or a linked edp'd sinx are just as good.
Again, if these classes were so good, we would see more people playing them. I know thats why i dont play them. Cause they suck.
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| dragonbug wrote: | | and minstrels are freaking wonderful back up class. thats what their made for. |
Being a mid rate server there isnt a great deal of need for support classes. Ie. - Priests (when you have 100k+ hp, 8k heals are never good when your taking damage up to 30k)
The higher the rate a server goes up, the less some supportive skills are needed. As you get more stats and skills people can quite easily rely on themselves.
If no one likes this idea, i am happy to drop it. I just wanted to see more a variety of classes.
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i gota go on favor of cadian since he spoken truth , minstrel and gipsy are suporters char , put this beautys with pple tht are used to play togheter and u have something great , like a friend said to me once i was complaining why was hard to kill pple with clown usin kiels and link . "Clowns and gipsy aren't meant to kill , they suport"
as for tk ranker and sg , idk stargladiator have their miracle personally think this is too random but a sg on miracle can put normal kicks for 40k to anyone = 3 snifs to tht foot and ur dead .
and taekwon ranker well their hp is superb , i still have lot of fun a ranker with my champ and he wins too 50 50 i say idk.
but , on the reality they really made taekwons a sort of sitting ducks they are very fragile .
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I still say Clowns need to have spammable AV again, =.=... Lil ducks in a baby pond.
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Thanks for input jay 
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