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"She didn't have Thana and VR about 4 months back, Just recently she got those, like 2 months ago" ~ Jay
yes well i didnt get big and into woe and pvp till about that time. so thus if i got my ass whooped it was cause i was inexperienced and didnt know anything. Battles make you learn, or quit, depends on your mentality.
yes back on subject.
theres so many ideas we can toss around for woe its ridiculous.
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| dragonbug wrote: | you know what..here my idea if you want woe more interesting. Lets DO the 2 realm thing, but have SOS in one(fighting each other to the death) and the second realm open for guilds that wanna have fun woeing *sarcasm*
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Indeed that would be a great and good idea so far 
| Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
60 ppl are on during WOE, thats more than enough ppl for this WOE method. If you enjoy the current and previous WOE systems then your not into WOE as much as you say you are. Try this WOE and you will see how WOE is really meant to be played. Just because you haven't tried this method doesnt mean it won't work. It works on other servers I played it should work here. |
i know what you mean..
but check this out
woe 60 people or less than 60 people
then lets say 35peoples are on SOS with IRA
25-30people against SOS like berserk,Genesis,GCS,HOV.ect
then SOS have like more than 3 persons have kiel cards
lets say all guilds are push further to kick SOS out of the castel
the Dark Pulse,tom,jo,Shelby,Joe,Bubba,ect.. are defending a castel
all of a sudden all of you know whats next...
And why some of you are complaining why WOE is so dull/boring/ect
even lots of people know the answer why the woe get so bore
ALLIED with SOS Sub-Guild of SOS
ahahaha so how could woe get so exciting with those things?
the best thing to do is make a guild to fight with
cause you know fighting with SUPREME guild is useless
cause it will end up disappointing your self cause you waste your time dying without having fun with it
well dont ask people why they are complaining about your guild we have
different point of view of it and i never seen any person who point his self to drown on
lame and shame
woe is for fun its not for your bloody lust dream server
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| Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:21 pm |
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I voted no. My reason being is that I am getting pretty fed up with all of these changes that are suggested to be made. Previously before all of this, this server was on a woe style that worked. Same woe style suggestions were made they changed, ppl happy. Now woe style changed again and things seem to be well. same woe style, some things changed. NOW AGAIN ppl want to change the way the game is played.... I believe should keep things the same instead of switching everything completly everytime we feel the need to Q_Q just modify a few details im not a big forum or argumentative person but this is just my opinion.
Also, this idea maybe passed yet again, i dont mean to be a hater, but it is yet again a suggestion from the same group of ppl. and with majority of the population in reign that actually get on forum to get involved with votes and debate such issues..... so as part of the minority. i hope a voice is heard. |
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| Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:08 pm |
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| dragonbug wrote: |
No offence but with sos, sos subguild 1, subguild 2 ect..... most people see no point to woe.
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SOS Sub-Guild of SOS
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Since this seems to be a recurring topic, I'll address it here.
Reiterating:
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- Argument of guilds holding too many castles and controlling essences, nullified
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To expound on this subject - Sub guilds exist under the current trial system because there is just nothing else to do in a two hour WoE where only a handful of people participate. Bluntly, here is why we have sub guilds in WoE: the thought process is if no one is going to attack my castle, then I am free to take another castle as it is slightly more interesting than sitting in an empty castle for two hours.
Said another way, by minimizing the impact that essences has on WoE and by reducing the number of castles open each WoE, sub guild usage in WoE will be unnecessary. With only 5 castles open each WoE, you will be busy attacking or defending. There will be little to gain by taking another castle on a sub guild with the proposed WoE format.
Again, sub guild usage in WoE would be needless in this scenario.
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| Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:18 pm |
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| shunne wrote: | | dragonbug wrote: | you know what..here my idea if you want woe more interesting. Lets DO the 2 realm thing, but have SOS in one(fighting each other to the death) and the second realm open for guilds that wanna have fun woeing *sarcasm*
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Indeed that would be a great and good idea so far
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60 ppl are on during WOE, thats more than enough ppl for this WOE method. If you enjoy the current and previous WOE systems then your not into WOE as much as you say you are. Try this WOE and you will see how WOE is really meant to be played. Just because you haven't tried this method doesnt mean it won't work. It works on other servers I played it should work here. |
i know what you mean..
but check this out
woe 60 people or less than 60 people
then lets say 35peoples are on SOS with IRA
25-30people against SOS like berserk,Genesis,GCS,HOV.ect
then SOS have like more than 3 persons have kiel cards
lets say all guilds are push further to kick SOS out of the castel
the Dark Pulse,tom,jo,Shelby,Joe,Bubba,ect.. are defending a castel
all of a sudden all of you know whats next...
And why some of you are complaining why WOE is so dull/boring/ect
even lots of people know the answer why the woe get so bore
ALLIED with SOS Sub-Guild of SOS
ahahaha so how could woe get so exciting with those things?
the best thing to do is make a guild to fight with
cause you know fighting with SUPREME guild is useless
cause it will end up disappointing your self cause you waste your time dying without having fun with it
well dont ask people why they are complaining about your guild we have
different point of view of it and i never seen any person who point his self to drown on
lame and shame
woe is for fun its not for your bloody lust dream server |
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| Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:24 pm |
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I agree is sx7r and subguilds are only there because they are bored'd.
| Treblig888 wrote: | | I voted no. My reason being is that I am getting pretty fed up with all of these changes that are suggested to be made. Previously before all of this, this server was on a woe style that worked. Same woe style suggestions were made they changed, ppl happy. Now woe style changed again and things seem to be well. same woe style, some things changed. NOW AGAIN ppl want to change the way the game is played.... I believe should keep things the same instead of switching everything completly everytime we feel the need to Q_Q just modify a few details im not a big forum or argumentative person but this is just my opinion. |
These changes have worked on other servers before, why not try them here? The only thing that i would query on all this is that the gm's workload is increasing too much...
| Treblig888 wrote: | | Also, this idea maybe passed yet again, i dont mean to be a hater, but it is yet again a suggestion from the same group of ppl. and with majority of the population in reign that actually get on forum to get involved with votes and debate such issues..... so as part of the minority. i hope a voice is heard. |
I am not sos, and i have no dealings with them... i am taking part xD
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| RuffleBump wrote: | That hurt sky. That's all I'm gonna say on that. All I can say is I agree that somehting has to change. Last night was terrible, nobody was on. I don't want to be on the bandwagon since Sky thinks we are gravy trianers as it is, but I like Wata's idea and some of Bubbas. I think something inbetween might work. I know that on the other server some of our family plays they have a lot more population, but its low rate, but they only woe sat and sun, and have only a couple of realms open, but not all the castles are available. I dont know what has happened here, when we first started woeing there were at least 3 other stronger guilds to play with? I don't know if it is the times or what? I think team work is a major issue here as has been said.
I don't agree that alliances are bad, that is part of team work, if you want to be stronger that is what you do. Problem is it has to have a purpose, just to kill another guild is not good in this woe system. This system is about essence, not much glory, but to be honest, every other server we have ever played has a reward besides glory, so I don't see how you can remove essence.
One last thing about cards and gear for everyone who is listening. Team work is number one, but if you don't have the cards your not gonna be on top, that is a fact. When three strong characters face one with the right goodies, it is no match. So please don't kid yourself into thinking it is all about team work, gear never hurts. After saying that though I agree it is no excuse for not getting better and improving your team work, and hunting down those cards and money to buy branches to get the cards. If that is what it takes to play this game, then that is what you do, if you don't want to do that you have no room to complain. So to me the bottom line is you should always be after better gear period, until you get it you do your best to win, and that is all that can be done.
I voted yes, by the way. |
Hey Ruffle, sry man, u guys wuld probs be fine, cause u guys wrk as a team. and i agree good on ya. its the guilds that have 1 person to 2 ppl in them which run around taking castles. They dont hold cause tey dun need to. I reckon the number of guilds needs to decrease, adn the size of the guilds increase, thast the only way any woe in the near future will get fun.
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| Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:48 pm |
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| shunne wrote: | | dragonbug wrote: | you know what..here my idea if you want woe more interesting. Lets DO the 2 realm thing, but have SOS in one(fighting each other to the death) and the second realm open for guilds that wanna have fun woeing *sarcasm*
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Indeed that would be a great and good idea so far
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60 ppl are on during WOE, thats more than enough ppl for this WOE method. If you enjoy the current and previous WOE systems then your not into WOE as much as you say you are. Try this WOE and you will see how WOE is really meant to be played. Just because you haven't tried this method doesnt mean it won't work. It works on other servers I played it should work here. |
i know what you mean..
but check this out
woe 60 people or less than 60 people
then lets say 35peoples are on SOS with IRA
25-30people against SOS like berserk,Genesis,GCS,HOV.ect
then SOS have like more than 3 persons have kiel cards
lets say all guilds are push further to kick SOS out of the castel
the Dark Pulse,tom,jo,Shelby,Joe,Bubba,ect.. are defending a castel
all of a sudden all of you know whats next...
And why some of you are complaining why WOE is so dull/boring/ect
even lots of people know the answer why the woe get so bore
ALLIED with SOS Sub-Guild of SOS
ahahaha so how could woe get so exciting with those things?
the best thing to do is make a guild to fight with
cause you know fighting with SUPREME guild is useless
cause it will end up disappointing your self cause you waste your time dying without having fun with it
well dont ask people why they are complaining about your guild we have
different point of view of it and i never seen any person who point his self to drown on
lame and shame
woe is for fun its not for your bloody lust dream server |
sry Jaymee, thast not true. SOS only has around 15 ppl on at good days, adn then again half of them are double clientiing priests adn linkers. OR subguild Emp breakers. SO please get ur facts straight be4 u accuse us. we just want fun adn if u guys Deliver fun, i guarantee Tom will reduce our Sub guilds. cause we wont need any more due to the smal area adn the more fun. The reason we attack GCS is cause we are so bored. Why do u think we dont take the castle??? exactly
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| marine wrote: | | add bloody branches to woe treasure drops !!! just a few branches idk 5 pieces if they drop |
OMG YES MArine, this is emplemented on BurnRO, and i spoke to some1 bout this but the turned me down.
TO Cadian, mate i didnt mean to offend you, but seriously, it is pretty appauling to see guilds of 1 and 2 ppl runnign around. They shuld eithre gather a larger force or Join a guild.
Sry didnt mean to offend u
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| Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:04 pm |
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | dragonbug wrote: | | you know what ill be the only non sos member to post why i said no. First off bubba if we do that, make the god items questable, then most people wont woe. If you take out the essence they need, then they have no reason to woe, they will just wait till the essence are available to buy. Now if the random essence is implemented, and you do the 1-2 castles per realm, most guilds will still be discouraged to woe. No offence but with sos, sos subguild 1, subguild 2 ect..... most people see no point to woe. Not i, i woe regardless. |
The reason we use sub-guilds right now is because we crave a fight. If your not going to bring the fight to us than we sure as hell are going to make ourselves known. If you think ppl WOE for essences, then why are their so many shops in Payon selling essences? Some people WOE for the extra cash the essences bring in, not for the essences themselves. There in of itself shows people WOE for anything, most because they can WOE.
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I also believe the all time low for Wednesday is because of its time. I know a few people who cant woe cause they have class. so........to make it "more exciting" then the times need to be adjusted a bit. I do realize that it wont please everyone (that much is evident) But it could help some users get on to support their "weaker" guilds. |
Wednesday's time is for me at 9-11pm EST, the only WOE I miss is the Monday one do to class being an hour later with me having a hour drive to campus. I think Wednesday's time can be dropped to 6pm-8pm EST however people will make time regardless to WOE or not if they enjoy it.
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The god items quest would take a lot away from woe, as most people would focus on that. And honestly since our economy sucks, i can see people selling the items as a set for a whole lot of money, not necessarily a bad idea, but a god item, shesh, one that's normally 10 gcs, i doubt someone will sell the stuff for 100mil. |
Greed makes the world go round? If you dont like the price you hunt it, you WOE for it. See what I did there, I made it so if people want to be greedy you just get the items yourself. Think outside the box instead of insisting it will take away from WOE because it might just improve it.
| Quote: | | There is no ONE thing that can fix woe. Bubba you talk about all out war, well we dont have enough people for that yet. Maybe if you made woe, one castle, one tiny room in pront, ALL GUILDS, then you will get the action you seek, personally if you dont like the action then find it somewhere else. |
60 ppl are on during WOE, thats more than enough ppl for this WOE method. If you enjoy the current and previous WOE systems then your not into WOE as much as you say you are. Try this WOE and you will see how WOE is really meant to be played. Just because you haven't tried this method doesnt mean it won't work. It works on other servers I played it should work here.
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"I would specify 2 WoE days, 1 realm open each day. Prontera on one day and a WoE: SE realm on the seconday. Castle limitation per guild - 1 in each realm for a total of 2" ~Tom ,
im confused by that, so your saying, 2 days of woe, one will always be pront, one some random place, and said guild can only take 1 castle in pront, and then 1 in the other place? and 1 realm open "each" day? are you referring to the specific days WOE is going on, or like EVERY DAY. |
Tom is referring to one day being just a WOE SE castle realm open, and another day being just Prontera open. It will be WOE 2 days a week just 1 realm open on each day.
| Quote: | "I like how you put that wata. One thing though. If a guild can only hold one castle, that encourages people to camp a castle without even trying to explore further. A 2 castle limit would spread out the bigger guilds and also create more competition to get an extra castle even though it would be difficultto hold a second. If you get what I mean :S" ~DEFORGE
spread out a guild like sos? are you kidding me. Thats bs. You apparently have never been in a castle when just JO has showed up and killed everyone. 2-3 sos members can hold ONE castle easy. sigh. really? |
You never WOE'd with us, so you have no clue how we actually WOE, don't assume we are a great force, we just know how to work well with each other. You keep bringing up the thought of gear playing a factor that causes SOS to win. Marine doesnt have great gear and she whoops your ass just fine, same with Kody. Hell when I first started playing here I didnt have gear and I held my own pretty damn good. Tell the gear statement to people who use Bragi in PVP, they equal us yet still lose, irony in that.
| Quote: | "it wuld be betta if ppl realised that ina small guild they dont stand a chance. I would like to see the number of guild participate plumet and the amount of members in Larger guilds increase. This will make for more interesting woe" ~alexiusalex
That whole statement there angers me. Not only are you disrespecting entire guilds, but your stating that you would like to see ONE guild reign supreme.
you know what..here my idea if you want woe more interesting. Lets DO the 2 realm thing, but have SOS in one(fighting each other to the death) and the second realm open for guilds that wanna have fun woeing *sarcasm*
(didnt throw in his 2 cents, he threw in his whole dollar)
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Alex's statement will be dealt with later by OG members. However he is correct in regards to small guilds not standing a chance alone if thats what he means. All this talk of allies, and getting stronger aren't going to work if you dont try. I mean the smartest thing I saw on this server was when ST was formed and it was Dreams and TS Combined into one unit. If people played that smart they could've made a equal power guild, however too many people trying to tell eachother what to do made it fail. People lack team work, you'll never get anywhere if you can't work together. |
hey i didnt mean to offen any1 be4, i was up to 2 am lol, but yea thast wat i meant, im really interested in teams joining together like TS adn Dreams. MAkes it alot more funner. Also this allaince between Geneisis adn GCS, i dont mind it. they have there differences i agree, but together they are pretty good, they have stopped us in some castles. More Joining of guilds would make alot more interesting woe.
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Quit posting so many times in a row, Al.
And try to hop off SoS's dick. You've only been in there for a few months. Show some shame.
But, on the other hand, you are totally right...
Hahaha~! And you probably thought I was just insulting you.
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I like your idea. I just think some of the items are pretty random and high.
(10 Bathory cards? or.... Pencil Cases!?!?! @_@)...and some of the orbs.
Other than that, I like it.
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| shunne wrote: | Hummmmmp Hummmmmp Hummmmmp whatever :)
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| XVongolaX wrote: | I like your idea. I just think some of the items are pretty random and high.
(10 Bathory cards? or.... Pencil Cases!?!?! @_@)...and some of the orbs.
Other than that, I like it. |
I edited the list, since some of it seemed way to long to get. However now it involves some mvp drops and new world items
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