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Totoro
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| cake wrote: | | Scarling wrote: | | Well I personally dont think* headgear, cards, or class skills should be changed. I also dont have any Kiels. But anyway, if there were only 2 headgear slots like iro then you couldnt stack more than 2 kiels anyway :p Which brings us back to my original point. Anyway, this is my last post on the topic. |
Everybody think differently, it's true that the stacking of kiels is cause by Headgear's slot, but how many players will agree with the idea of removing something that was taken as a given. From the start to now your input over the topic of kiels was to remove something that players from both parties will disagree on. A handful of players agree that 2 kiels is enough to spam, this why I suggested to a 2 kiel stacking. I understand that people with more than 2 kiels will not agree to this. Beside hearing the 'they work hard for their cards' I want some type of input that is not revolving around how much effort someone put in to obtain those cards. I have own kiels before, and I know what it's like when people tell me that I'm abusing them. Because I know I am abusing them. This cycle of debate over rares will never stop. Isn't there a way to compromise between the two parties? |
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It's the same with those who using pancake will not agree if the cakes is going on* delay* session, no?
And what scarling said is rather good actually. I own 4kiels myself, so don't quote me on this one. But for me, you sounds like you want people with 3kiels to be stacked on. Then, why not stacking ALL the cards as well? For instance, casting delay, elemental resist, damage multiplier, healings, i can go on whole rms or even irowiki if you want it.
But I guess, no?
With ALL cards being stacked, i believe both parties will agree (or maybe not, because you just whine about kiel(s) at the moment) , since it aint make a downside only to 1 side, but whole as community, no?
[2] slots headgear is the idea.
[5] slots is a given you said, then why whine when few people using up their given slots to the extent? Or was it because you don't have it at the moment? Or any other reason?
Does that mean, kiel is wrecked or not a given? ( along with other -rares- you had in mind) Because for me, 4 permeters, angeling and deviling combo itself, is overpower too. But that's just me. :B
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Yush! Trial will be good on those who asked for woe action, not for chocobo race :B
To the chocolate.
Or might be, they who feel degraded with pancakes being delayed, want those with kiels to have *delay to the extent too?* Then all parties will be satisfied, no?
iLol for that kind of obvious whine.
]Kellie[
Edited : for you to fully understand what i mean, not only loaded words which aint enough to satisfy your -e-needs- the matter here is STACKING by the headgear not the kiels. Take any other stacking combos for example, if staking was the matter, not kiel. But if kiel was the matter for you, then i know what you really means.
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| Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:49 am |
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cake
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| Totoro wrote: | | cake wrote: | | Scarling wrote: | | Well I personally dont think* headgear, cards, or class skills should be changed. I also dont have any Kiels. But anyway, if there were only 2 headgear slots like iro then you couldnt stack more than 2 kiels anyway :p Which brings us back to my original point. Anyway, this is my last post on the topic. |
Everybody think differently, it's true that the stacking of kiels is cause by Headgear's slot, but how many players will agree with the idea of removing something that was taken as a given. From the start to now your input over the topic of kiels was to remove something that players from both parties will disagree on. A handful of players agree that 2 kiels is enough to spam, this why I suggested to a 2 kiel stacking. I understand that people with more than 2 kiels will not agree to this. Beside hearing the 'they work hard for their cards' I want some type of input that is not revolving around how much effort someone put in to obtain those cards. I have own kiels before, and I know what it's like when people tell me that I'm abusing them. Because I know I am abusing them. This cycle of debate over rares will never stop. Isn't there a way to compromise between the two parties? |
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It's the same with those who using pancake will not agree if the cakes is going on* delay* session, no?
And what scarling said is rather good actually. I own 4kiels myself, so don't quote me on this one. But for me, you sounds like you want people with 3kiels to be stacked on. Then, why not ALL the cards as well? For instance, casting delay, elemental resist, damage multiplier, i can go on whole rms or even irowiki if you want it.
But I guess, no?
With ALL cards being stacked, i believe both parties will agree (or maybe not, because you just whine about kiel(s) at the moment), since it aint make a downside only to 1 side, but whole as community, no?
[2] slots headgear is the idea.
[5] slots is a given, then why whine when few people using up their given slots to the extent? Or was it because you don't have it at the moment? Or any other reason? Because for me, 4 permeters, angeling and deviling combo itself, is overpower too. But that's just me. :B
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Yush! Trial will be good on those who asked for woe action, not for chocobo race :B
To the chocolate.
Or might be, they who feel degraded with pancakes being delayed, want those with kiels to have *delay to the extent too?* Then all parties will be satisfied, no?
iLol for that kind of obvious whine.
]Kellie[ |
You continue to type that I was whining about Kiels. Did it every occur to you that I open this thread to get more input? Just because I open a forbidden topic, that mean I am whining?
You stated that Scarling's suggestion is good, but not whining. So why is my suggestion whining? Does this mean your statement is biases? You do not like my suggestion that mean it is a bad suggestion, but you also included a loaded word to describe my suggestion.
If it's so wrong to limit the stacking to 2 kiels, then please come up with an type of suggestion. This is pretty much a brain storm thread, even if one suggestion is shot down, it does not mean coming up with another idea is illegal.
Also, if you actually have some sort of input that is not fill with loaded words. Please continue to post. If you want to use loaded words to satisfied your needs please do because this is a public forum.
If you do not want to discuss a way to stop the rampage of random flaming on rares. Then you are doing a great job at that. |
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| Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:31 am |
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Totoro
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Biased? Please crystal. Sorry, I mean cake, I even put that was off topic, no?
And I don't know if you noticed or not. Why I prefer 2 slots headgear rather than stacking 2 kiels? And i do put my 2 cents on why [2] slots headgear is better than stacking.
That way, NOBODY can abuse the stacking on headgear ( resist, cast delay, heals and such), not only the kiels matter which not likely the people on the server got 3 kiels each person.
That means, YES it's likely few people who's at disadvantage with few other people that got kiels trying to do something about it (in my opinion, whine) . And like Bubba/jay said, there's many way to counter kiels. Toft for instance, shows me on how to do it.
Of course it's loaded words. Its forum, not pvp?
Lol
*aint mean to flame anyone, anything, or anywho.
*there goes my 2 cents in post above or above above this, so. Until Luzz respond, ima leave the -oh open forum- discussions. Have a good one (whine)! >3<
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| Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:24 am |
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You actually think your post is not biased? How many time have this been brought up? How do you feel when you're a new player logging in to see the nonsense going on between the debate of Rares? I don't care much for card itself, I only want a more civilized way people treat each other. It's true that people will not like you when you have more than they do, but can't there be a way that WoE and PvP is left in WoE and PvP? I open this thread to gather as many input as possible. This thread does not have to revolve around one certain topic. Why is kiels one of the rares that people consistently talk about? Yes, there are way to counter Kiels, but how many people are willing to look at that fact? Isn't it much easier for them to whine and provoke others? Reign is an endless cycle, no matter what there will be a certain group to blame. Yes, I want to be one of those people that think there might be a rainbow after the storm. I know RO is just a game, but how many people will agree with me to stop this nonsense argument. Without each other then WoE will be boring. Without the rares people will not come up with way to over come it. It's fun to play a game and have people to play with. It's not fun when those people end up leaving. Argument, drama, debate, etc. never once people try to stop and think. No matter how many time this happen, there will always be people that bring the worst out of others.
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| Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:52 am |
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ok guys i tryed to read all of the posts non the flameing stuff can someone please explain to em what this is for?mail on fourms or here be nice ty x.x*got so losted/confused*
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| Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:58 pm |
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Yea lets play with only 2 headgear slots  !!!! this is not sarcasm... im cool with the idea of only 2 cards per head |
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| Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:02 pm |
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Well my opinion is;
Getting healing item nerfed.. but why not the healing spell too? Like slim potion. Its more abusive and its splash heal. We should put a limit on -% of after cast. I'm sure most of people would like to have spell like AD, SBK and every mages spell been slowed since we cannot spam heal anymore.
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Glenfiddich
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If you are referring to a creators potion pitcher, they should not be changed. They heal no where near enough in comparison to the amount of damage that can be output.
If he is healing, he is not attacking you, keep it up and you win.
It took me 3 bacsojin, 2 kiels, alot of vit, and a link to be even minutely effective at heals. And so many factors eff you up; ice pick (common), thana (common enough). You can out damage heals very easily.
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| Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:17 am |
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Kiku-Ichiomonjii
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well whats happening with this? yet again woe was me vs 3 lk's that know how to click some giggling boxes.
ima stalker
im soo ready for this shit to stop, its not fair |
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| Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:58 pm |
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| Kiku-Ichiomonjii wrote: | well whats happening with this? yet again woe was me vs 3 lk's that know how to click some giggling boxes.
ima stalker
im soo ready for this shit to stop, its not fair |
This is what's happening
http://www.reignonline.net/viewtopic.php?t=2849
Patience is a virtue.
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| Glenfiddich wrote: | | Kiku-Ichiomonjii wrote: | well whats happening with this? yet again woe was me vs 3 lk's that know how to click some giggling boxes.
ima stalker
im soo ready for this shit to stop, its not fair |
This is what's happening
http://www.reignonline.net/viewtopic.php?t=2849
Patience is a virtue. |
http://www.reignonline.net/viewtopic.php?t=2865
Sometime next week, or later this week we will have a trail for the New WOE system
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