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XDoggStrafe
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Well, I've been tinkering around with scripts and such, and looking into pvp and I noticed something that does exist, just hasn't been implemented on Reign that could be a great source of fun. "PVP Gambling".
What exactly IS PVP gambling?
It's a nice little npc in a special PVP room, where 2 or more players enter, and you bet on a single player. You bet certain amounts of zeny (flat rate of at least 1000 zeny to start to keep it fair) on who you think can win the match. After the match, you talk to the npc and collect your Zeny. Sounds pretty good right? Except, how do you view the match without actually being attacked? Walls. That's how you'd do it. A specially designed map, that has walls put up around the "Spectator" area. Thus, you'd be able to get in to view a match, without having to worry about a player's AoE skills wiping you out before the match is over. Only registered combatants would be able to enter the arena. Again, this would help the PVP area, as no one can really get accused of "teaming" if the type of match is "Everyone for themself" and only 1 may remain standing at the end.
Why should Reign use something like this?
Well, aside from possibly settling some pvp drama (even without the gambling being added), it could add a whole new level to the pvp zone. Think of the benefits of being able to watch the BoC of the class you play taking on someone of equal skill and level? It would be an interesting match to watch, and without someone being able to randomly kill you, you'd actually be able to watch it to the end.
What are the big downsides to my suggestion?
Well, There's the unfortunate business that the gambling could add a seedier element to PVP (such as people taking dives to get a large cut on the profit being bet on them.). As well as having no effect on the current PVP drama (if a system exists, it can be abused, rule #57 of XDogg's rule book.) and possibly escalating it even further. Also the amount of coding and scripting would be enormous and possibly unneeded if no one really wanted this type of thing.
So, now I present this idea to the server, to see what they think of it? If it's not your type of thing, that's why I also suggested it as an event, kind of like a trial on the whole deal. Opinions on this matter? (please no flaming btw, remember this is just an idea.)
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| Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:16 pm |
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Zebruh
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I hate you because you smell funny and wear ugly clothes.(Just Kidding)
The idea is fine.
But I don't think we could get an NPC for it. Then we just have people getting money for rigging a fight. Like you said.
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Teams Vs Teams would be nice 
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Team vs Team, Guild vs Guild (not like in WoE where it's usually 2 members of a guild fighting, but like 5 vs 5 or something) The possibilities are endless really if you think about what it could do. It could be like a whole new arena meant for both duelists and people who just wanna sit around and talk, but still see the action.
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| Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:22 pm |
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how about were to people fight. and the other players bet on who will win or not?? and dont commint on this saying people will just take a dive and crap so plz dont commint on this about that.
and make a pvp were its GM VS players were the gm cant use @die or nukes >.> Skye >.> |
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| Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:07 pm |
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| angrysnake wrote: | how about were to people fight. and the other players bet on who will win or not?? and dont commint on this saying people will just take a dive and crap so plz dont commint on this about that.
and make a pvp were its GM VS players were the gm cant use @die or nukes >.> Skye >.> |
I actually mentioned that in my first post, that I suggested a pvp betting place, and there's always a chance someone will abuse a system, it's just how the world works snake. It would be nice to be able to bet on a match though. Also, even if they gm's can't @nuke or @die, they could still @kill and #die us >.>
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essentially your suggesting we build a colliseum?
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| Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:38 pm |
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| XDoggStrafe wrote: | | angrysnake wrote: | how about were to people fight. and the other players bet on who will win or not?? and dont commint on this saying people will just take a dive and crap so plz dont commint on this about that.
and make a pvp were its GM VS players were the gm cant use @die or nukes >.> Skye >.> |
I actually mentioned that in my first post, that I suggested a pvp betting place, and there's always a chance someone will abuse a system, it's just how the world works snake. It would be nice to be able to bet on a match though. Also, even if they gm's can't @nuke or @die, they could still @kill and #die us >.> |
then make it to wear a GM cant use and @ or / commmands only there skills and such and no nuke or anything else that kills the person no matter wat other victum does |
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| Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:40 pm |
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| seraphineveles wrote: | | essentially your suggesting we build a colliseum? |
Basically yeah, there's already an existing map, the gm's would just need to alter it slightly to add walls and warps to the actual stadium part. Since walls stop AoE effects, and Luzz mentioned he's working on a command to ignore battle for players, so this also would help if it automatically switched it on for the fans watching the match.
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| Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:39 pm |
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| angrysnake wrote: | | and make a pvp were its GM VS players were the gm cant use @die or nukes >.> Skye >.> |
You're insinuating that I go into PvP and fire off nukes at everyone I see, which is the exact opposite of the truth. I feel that GMs shouldn't enter PvP to fight at all, only to tend to things there.
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:21 am |
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| Skye wrote: | | angrysnake wrote: | | and make a pvp were its GM VS players were the gm cant use @die or nukes >.> Skye >.> |
You're insinuating that I go into PvP and fire off nukes at everyone I see, which is the exact opposite of the truth. I feel that GMs shouldn't enter PvP to fight at all, only to tend to things there. |
not wat i meant Skye i ment that if we had this little GM V P the GM's might use there 1 kill methodes to win or such
like if a GM id about to die the GM might use there @kill. /kill @nuke or watever they have to kill the player wit 1 hit and the other player cant do anything to do about it |
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:25 am |
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All the more reason for a "GM vs Player" battle room to not exist. I am entirely against the idea for a grand variety of reasons, but the primary reason is the creation of unnecessary tension and drama between the GM team and players.
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:47 am |
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| y would there be tension when its just a fun lil game and is only 1 a week or 1 a mouth?? "and let it be" |
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:55 am |
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| Skye wrote: | | All the more reason for a "GM vs Player" battle room to not exist. I am entirely against the idea for a grand variety of reasons, but the primary reason is the creation of unnecessary tension and drama between the GM team and players. |
Um Skye, are you against the general idea of a stadium for players to watch battles with out actually taking place in them or GM vs players? Cause really I could care less about GM vs Players since if I wanna fight one of you guys I can just request a duel or something, but the idea of the stadium would be nice to see implemented since most people can't go in to just watch unless they wanna run the risk of being killed.
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I'm not against a Stadium. I am, however, against a PvP room dedicated to GMs vs. Players. That's all.
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