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Bubbaknoxz
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WOE in its current state I find it extremely boring and very easy. How easy, it only takes my sniper about 2 mins to get the to emp room than 1 min to break the emp. Where are the guilds defending these castles?
To fix this I suggest we only allow certain area's open for certain WOE days. Currently there 6 realms open;
Prontera
Geffen
Alde
Payon
Yuno
Rachel
Now if we split it up to Three realms open on each of the WOE day it would make things a bit more interesting.
For example:
Saturday- Prontera, Geffen, Yuno
Wednesday- Alde, Payon, Rachel
The max limit stays at 4. However with this route people who have castles in towns not active for that particular WOE can go attack open castles. Those who have to defend can still attack neighboring castles but will have to worry about losing theirs. Makes it a bit more interesting than in its current state. Putting a WOE warper in will also be a plus..
Also increase the emps hp, its way too low for a server with people at 255. I would also suggest allowing skills like backslide, body relocation, high jump, etc. to shake things up a little bit.
Also one bug I noticed Magnum Break shouldn't be able to move Sniper traps and release the person as well. Makes Trap Snipers extremely useless when a LK can just Mag break through it and not be pushed back by JT nor charge arrow.
Thats all I have for now, plan to have more later on.
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| Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:18 pm |
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Before I comment, I would first like to know if you have already read over this thread:
http://www.reignonline.net/viewtopic.php?t=457
If you have not, please do so.
For now, I will simply say that each and every tactic will usually have a counter-tactic to balance it. If something had no downside to it, or no weakness involved, it would be considered overpowered. Lord Knights have many advantages, but also have many disadvantages. Lord Knights, to my knowledge, are the one and only counter-force (besides another sniper with remove trap) against a trap sniper. Removing the one counter-force takes away a beneficial part of choosing Lord Knight as a class.
As a quick comment, I am personally against the idea of a "WOE Warper"
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| Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:29 am |
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all very pretty , im very interested in a emp with more hp *.* like x 3 as it is now ? why? well with a cap str of 300. a emp destined to lvls 99 stays out of range.
and like everything can be countered , body relocation cof. can get countered truly it can. |
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| Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:44 am |
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I skimmed through that thread but it happens to be locked so my opinion couldn't be stated in there.
Onto your statement:
That must be something new because I have never seen in all my years in RO a LK being able to use Magnum Break for WOE (Skill is nullified to enchant weapon only) to get out of traps. Then eat Jupitel Thunder and arrow lock like it was water right up to you, then go break the emp in 5 hits.
So what are these disadvantages for LK's? When they can take a castle in the last 10 seconds of WOE just by running past you. It takes out the thrill of WOE because no one fights, I've had my lowest kill count ever in my RO WOE career yesterday( 12-14 kills/ 3 deaths). Thats because no one would attack they would run right on by to the emp. Which is pretty pathetic shows no true skill.
I had to change from my Sniper to my Creator because at the end of everything the Sniper was useless (first time I ever said that about my Sniper) since WOE is pretty much LK dominated. From what I've seen in the last 2 WOE's I've been involved in.
A WOE warper was a suggestion, all it will really do is get more people active for WOE. This is because I doubt some of the new players even know where to go to get to castle grounds. Thats just me.
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A WoE warper just makes it possible to keep storming a castle endlessly, when people are alot more limited in reality.
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looks like someone trying to hold castle(s) much more longer than it should be.
essence(s) perhaps? *conspiracy*
*grin*
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| Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:57 am |
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| Zebruh wrote: | | A WoE warper just makes it possible to keep storming a castle endlessly, when people are alot more limited in reality. |
If certain castle realms are open certain WOE day's many people would be willing to defend and not run to the 30 castles that are open. So storming a castle with people defending it ought to be tough. With the HP of the EMP being higher (Current HP is made for a 99 max lvl server) a last minute bum rush would prove to be difficult.
I don't mind endless people rushing in.... It makes things more amusing to say the least. What do you mean by limited? actual people in a guild limited? or gear limited?
If its people in guild limited, recruit better or form a better attack strategy. WOE was not implemented in RO just to give weak guilds a fair advantage. It was implemented so that all guilds regardless of gear can attack a castle and win using strategy.
In one server I had a lvl 95 Sinx only gear it had was a jahamder[0] and that's it at the time. I solo'd 4 castles killing people but not breaking the emp till my last one. A full guild(20 people) was in the emp room while I was attacking their emp and I broke it without them even noticing me. Moral of the story you don't need "uber" gear to do something, if you have the right build and the right mind set you can do anything.
* Example was from the defunct Fancy RO low rate max lvl 99.*
| goMen wrote: | looks like someone trying to hold castle(s) much more longer than it should be.
essence(s) perhaps? *conspiracy*
*grin* |
Essences don't mean anything to me. The only one worth while is asperika and that's not usable for WOE currently, plus I have one already. Hell thats in Rachel I believe, my guild(SOS) is nowhere near there. So essence isn't what I am after. I'm just after the war, it's what makes me actually play RO. The PVP room to me shows no true skill, because you have nothing on the line. During WOE its your castle on the line, its your guild symbol, something in which all people will defend for tooth and nail. Unless your just a guild hopping fiend, just after the drops.
As far as trying to hold castles.... Its in my guilds nature to keep what you have. I don't know about other guilds who only keep a castle because of its essence drop. So no *conspiracy* I just want a worth while, off the wall, action packed WOE. That can only happen I believe if the suggestion are implemented, if it stays like this, I'll just use my Sinx and do raids on castles breaking the emp every few seconds.
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| Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:22 pm |
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I agree with some points actually, I really think emp HP is too low for example. Gloom card was meant for this purpose but now with orc skeleton and dark water every sinx can break within 3 seconds =(
I am also having a hard time finding the action packed castles cos there are just too many! Or can you guys kindly tell me which castles have more than 10 people in it during WoE?? 
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Moral of the story you don't need "uber" gear to do something, if you have the right build and the right mind set you can do anything.
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| Zebruh wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Moral of the story you don't need "uber" gear to do something, if you have the right build and the right mind set you can do anything.
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You quote me and go "Really?"... I believe that answered your question, if you don't understand it read it over, and over till you do 
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I believe its true, hopefully I don't get proven wrong soon xD *apprehension*
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | Zebruh wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Moral of the story you don't need "uber" gear to do something, if you have the right build and the right mind set you can do anything.
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You quote me and go "Really?"... I believe that answered your question, if you don't understand it read it over, and over till you do :) |
You silly goose. :c
You told that story to me, the undisputed champion of fighting without donation gears.
Maybe if you spent less time trying to demean others' intelligence, and more time talking to people, you wouldn't look like such a tool right now.
By the way, my question("Really?") to you was "Do you know who you're preaching to? You're telling the guy who has never fought with any donations more than a Cat Bell that he doesn't need epic gears to fight."
You can't answer a question you don't even know.
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| Zebruh wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | Zebruh wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Moral of the story you don't need "uber" gear to do something, if you have the right build and the right mind set you can do anything.
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You quote me and go "Really?"... I believe that answered your question, if you don't understand it read it over, and over till you do |
You silly goose. :c
You told that story to me, the undisputed champion of fighting without donation gears.
Maybe if you spent less time trying to demean others' intelligence, and more time talking to people, you wouldn't look like such a tool right now.
By the way, my question("Really?") to you was "Do you know who you're preaching to? You're telling the guy who has never fought with any donations more than a Cat Bell that he doesn't need epic gears to fight."
You can't answer a question you don't even know. |
I talk to people in my guild only( the people who recommended I come to this server); why bother talking to other people in the server? They spam @main like nothing, to the point where its annoying. Those are people whom I don't wish to know. And to be honest I don't know you so how would I know or care what gear you use? You can call me a tool, I don't give a damn. At least I'm not the one name calling  ..
Lets stay on topic concerning WOE suggestions only. Does that work for you?
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truly the emp hp is dam low, truly separate castles for each woe day would make woe more interesting. woe warper , well it wouldnt change much as i guess everybody know a acolyte job can warp u to any woe castle. so this warper would be a help for guilds who still dont have a colyte to portal em . i would say some stuffs to zebruh but i think , wht u done in the past doesnt rlly mean much , is wht u can do now.. no look back look forward.
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| Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:14 am |
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | Zebruh wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | | Zebruh wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Moral of the story you don't need "uber" gear to do something, if you have the right build and the right mind set you can do anything.
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Really? |
You quote me and go "Really?"... I believe that answered your question, if you don't understand it read it over, and over till you do :) |
You silly goose. :c
You told that story to me, the undisputed champion of fighting without donation gears.
Maybe if you spent less time trying to demean others' intelligence, and more time talking to people, you wouldn't look like such a tool right now.
By the way, my question("Really?") to you was "Do you know who you're preaching to? You're telling the guy who has never fought with any donations more than a Cat Bell that he doesn't need epic gears to fight."
You can't answer a question you don't even know. |
I talk to people in my guild only( the people who recommended I come to this server); why bother talking to other people in the server? They spam @main like nothing, to the point where its annoying. Those are people whom I don't wish to know. And to be honest I don't know you so how would I know or care what gear you use? You can call me a tool, I don't give a damn. At least I'm not the one name calling ;)..
Lets stay on topic concerning WOE suggestions only. Does that work for you? |
To answer the last question, no.
and "I believe that answered your question, if you don't understand it read it over, and over till you do :)" is an insult.
If you don't like people spamming main chat, turn it off, sissy.
The Emp needs more HP.
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