[Sephiroth7500]

Well, I know this has already been brought up, but I was thinking that it might be a bad idea to revive an old thread, so here goes.

http://www.reignonline.net/viewtopic.php?t=1928

Bring monster zenny back. I have a weird feeling that our economy is dying every so often. I'll just put a few reasons.

Acid Demonstration bottles, just this WoE I know a few people who have spent well over 1k of them.

Castle Economy, every time an Emp is broken then it loses 5 levels, then you have to upgrade it again, it doesn't happen so much for the other castles where they are well defended but, if you don't know, some other people's defenses suck. (Huge arrow pointing down at me)

NPC stuff, people buy things from NPCs a lot and then we lose even more money. :O

Upgrades, when you try to upgrade things from the upgrade, guy, the things break, buy more, so on, it's the same as the other two reasons but, whatever works.

I know there was more... I just forgot them now that I decided to make this post.
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[dragonbug]

god i agree with this but even though 29 people out of 1 agreed, it will be shot down man. ~.~
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[Reiji]

Giving the users *more* zeny than they already have will not fix the problem of the economy. In fact, that would just flood the economy with zeny even more and make the problem worse.

The main problem, from what I've noticed, is all on the merchants who are selling. We all have ridiculous amounts of zeny and they know they can get away with ungodly prices of 100 mil. Another problem is that most merchants don't know the worth of something so one sets it at a ridiculous price and the others decide that that's what the item is worth.

The other side of the problem is that you all keep paying for these ridiculously priced items. If you stop buying from the merchants, they'll have to stop selling them at such a high price. And if there's an item you need, request it on the forums or elsewhere and guaranteed someone will give you it for a fair price.

Another issue would be that there's just too much zeny in the economy as it is. I mean, thanks to the bank interest and depending on the amount of zeny you have stored in the bank, you can make around 1 mil a day just by checking your bank account.

A possible solution is to perhaps start taking zeny out of the economy. Maybe by getting rid of the interest? Or charging people for certain events? (Not anything huge, but just enough to help.) Or limiting the amount of zeny one can have in their bank account/on their person. I know this sounds scary and that the majority of people who are greedy will be like, "WHAT NO, THAT'S NOT FAIR!" but something needs to be done.

It's all simple capitalism, my friends. Simply pumping more zeny into the economy will only make matters worse; I realize that a lot of you aren't old enough to understand that yet because allowing people to obtain MORE zeny seems like it makes sense but, trust me, it is the last thing that should be done.
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[magbolt123]

Well, I know there isn't much to do about upgrading armour and other things. However, I would like to point out that if you are trying to get your weapons refined, a Job Level 120 Master Smith has a 35% HIGHER success rate than Hollgrehenn in Prontera. I know most Master Smith's would be happy to upgrade your weapons for you so long as you provide them with material or a small fee if you do not wish to provide the materials.

P.S. Sorry for the Double Post, I just wanted to point this information out. [/quote]

Well you cant always trust the people around you and on the white smith you can only upgrade weapons you cannot upgrade garments,armors,foot gear, and headgears.

PS. Really don't know how to quote
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[jogradz1225]

[jogradz1225]

let's see, i'll try to explain what Reiji is going at for those who do not understand but know what the problem is...

The more Rare the item is, the more it costs...

The more items in the market there is, the less it should cost...

Merchants compete in selling their goods, there fore if they sell same items, this should bring about deflation, which means the merchant, in order to sell his item, should lower prices to a floor amount.

Having more of the currency means getting the items you want...

OK, here's where the currency goes in...

The more people that have a lot of the CURRENCY, the goods lose their value...

when a good loses its value its up to the merchants to give the value back, which means they will up the prices to make the goods more valuable...

they either keep a stash of the goods and regulate the release, or up the prices... since we dont have that much a storage, the option of increasing the prices is the better option...

so, more zeny means higher prices, the more rare the item the more higher the price, then you complain again that since the more zeny you can get the more expensive the prices are again going...

so, more zeny is not the solution, it will just make them go up again.
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[Sephiroth7500]

Concerning Reiji's bank interest thing, I'm pretty sure it used to be 100m for 1m a day, now it's 500m for 1m a day, I'm just putting this in as a fact though, nothing else.

The other thing is, the payment for castle investments are pretty insane. Having just one castle at level 80+ and you will have to pay over 15m a day, and I haven't even got one to 90 because once I hit 86 or so I had to pay over 25m, so I stopped from there. It's the leaders' choices, yes, but I just think most would prefer leveling it.

As for the Payon merchants... I honestly think that half the people don't buy from them, because I know me and most of my guild don't. And as a side note, I set my merchant up in Lutie and got about 200m selling the most random items at cheap(er) prices than the Payon ones. Like for example Bryn essences for 500k and other stuff like that. :O
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[marine]

This have been discussed in the past among many theories and many bolony... since remove zeny from when u kill a mob mvp didn't work as expected i voted yes.
also is a pain in the ass autoloot here since we cant alootid more than 1 thing at time means tht i have to aloot 100% filling my inv with crap wich 50% of it sells at 10z and weights a heap.
flame on
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[Maico]

We could always go with the option of a full zeny reset. Or you could take every ones zeny and reduce it by 90%. Suddenly those billionare merchants have millions and everyone is about even again. With the drop in zeny and reduction in bank interest and no monster zeny it should solve most problems and reset the economy.

As compensation the GM's could host an event like a scavenger hunt for something good like +5 to all stats or +3 to all stats with some kind of special skill attached. (only one per account of course)
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[ShadowNguyen91]

[Glenfiddich]

Remove GC and reset zeny. Thatll fix it, although no one will like it. No one ever likes the solution =)
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