[Xzerostu]

NOTE-If you do not intend to read this whole thing and really read and listen to it. then do not post please, i do not want your opinion. This is not to be mean i just want constructive feedback. Please quote the part in question you are speaking of.-NOTE

Due to the fact that grandpa dreadnaught. Glenfiddich. dragonbug, and company always argue, along with many others(sorry for mispellings)

I have remade this poll and thread. I would really like everyone to refer here please and listen to me, my idea, and my explanation.

The Idea
New 5 credit/goldcoin, mid-gear donate (such as Scouter and arc angeling backpack)

part 1:
All stats plus 3, Allows usage of Strip Shield Level 1.
(possibly not even the 3 stats)
The item can be whatever gms decide it looks like


EDIT: Alternative Part 1:(ignore this part if you do not like the alternative part since it cant be used by everyone)
Chance to strip shield when attacking. To avoid abuse....
Only equipable by Mage and ninja class. (and maybe high priest)

part 2:
Alteration of the Golden Thief Bug Card, to allow dispell to get through, and only dispell. And the dispellability of Full Chemical Protection.(or at least the chemical protection shield)
No Nerfs to GTBS effect beyond dispell, no soulburn, no coma, only dispell

Explanation for said idea:
There has been much argument to the Golden Thief bug card.
Change its effects, nerf it, change its effect nerf it
on the other side, change characters, find a way around, change characters, fine away around.

So what is a logical sophisticated compromise? Change it in so little yet effective of a way, that it promotes both class changing and still inhibits the Magic class of skills as it was intended

Now as for actual explanation as to why this is effective and small:
I have asked many people, if dispell went through gtb would it be so bad?
Most reply: "not really."
Ive also asked, if a magic character tried to strip your shield would it be so bad: Most Physical players i asked replied "Ide probly kill them before it happened."

Now these arent exact quotes, but this proves a point, its obviously doesnt inhibit gtb hardly.
Yet it gives people a chance. there is a mid gear for a lot of things. SP, fun, long ranged, anti this and that. So a strip shield level 1 would be a nice addition and would be pretty cool even for non magical classes. and its so insignificant it could not be abused.

Dispell on Fcp. Sure this would make WoE a bit painful, but how often does a professor play attack in woe, most of the time they're defense. I dont think (especially if it only worked on the chemical protection shield)it would be a big problem.
This would actually not effect woe or pvp too much whatsoever. And in fact it would still give magic people a jump. A chance they didnt have before, it might make Magic become more popular and still keep the Lk circulation and other physical class circulation. This would also kill some mayas and not be that bad due to the fact that a Magic class character probly wont have the luck or dex to strip that way.

Along with this, it has been said well there errende ebeece. Well Its not that powerful of accesory, the lk looks power to use it due to loss of a megg, and
you can move a lk, its not a good comparison to gtb because the card doesnt inhibit anything, its just a pain in the ass should it actualy occur.(of course this is my opinion and ide really like it if the conversation strayed away from this, forum message me for this discussion on anti arrow clip.)

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So In conclusion. This doesnt hurt anything, but it does help. And i think thats what people should look at, its fine but this stops arguing and makes things a lot easier.

Please think before you post. Please dont start an argument. The only real topic i want discussed in this thread(please) is should it just work on chemical protection shield. And your personal opinion on THIS Post.

Please do not start an argument, i cannot stress this enough. I think this a very generous idea that all the ANTI GTB nuts have actually agreed as a great idea. And i think for those who are like me and dont honestly give a shit but want to stop arguing. This doesnt effect you but it can help everyone.

So what do you say people. Ignore grandpas version on my post and rethink this vote.

Thank you
=)

EDIT: Credit to Glenfiddich(and marine) for the original Strip shield lvl 1 idea and the EDIT atlernative part one idea(Aside from the high priest part @me)
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Agnilam-BoC Stalker

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[Glenfiddich]

Gtb will still be extremely powerful so no one should have an issue here.

One thing I do want to change tho is.

Adds the chance of auto casting level 1 strip shield when attacking. Allowing the skill I don't like. Have both or my one lol.

Again if needed I an get about 5 people to vote yea for this if needed.

I is has a gtb and I think this is fair.
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Glenfiddich; 255- Professor
Jager Bomb; 255- Creator
Rammstein; 255- Creator

[Xzerostu]

Well i think that would bee bad cause then every lk would use that and try to strip shield, and every sniper would sue it and try to strip shield. Everything that rapid attacks even gunsligners and taekwons, you strip someones shield it hurts them a good chunk, if you can cast it, it has less of an ability to be abused.
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Agnilam-BoC Stalker

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[Glenfiddich]

Casting gives magic minimal chance due to low hp.

How's about: Chance to cast strip shield when receiving damage. Orr even better..
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Chance to strip shield when attacking. To avoid abuse....
Only equipple by Mage and ninja class.
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Glenfiddich; 255- Professor
Jager Bomb; 255- Creator
Rammstein; 255- Creator

[Xzerostu]

good and valid points, whent he gms reivew the thread ide like that one looked at, ill add it up top
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Agnilam-BoC Stalker

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[Glenfiddich]

I really like Mage and ninja equippable that's good actually.
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Glenfiddich; 255- Professor
Jager Bomb; 255- Creator
Rammstein; 255- Creator

[dragonbug]

[Glenfiddich]

The idea of it is to strip gtb. Giving it to all classes would effect in all shields getting stripped. Cranials etc etc etc. That could probably throw gameplay out. Range getting too much of a jump on melée maybe, I'm not sure?

Which now that I think of it it should probably take an armour slot or two headgear slots. If all classes have, having it set to activate when taking damage would probably be the way to go.

I suggest Mage classes also because this is to help the Mage class out, because as you could probably agree, they are behind atm. That was the whole idea really, to give them a fighting chance.
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Glenfiddich; 255- Professor
Jager Bomb; 255- Creator
Rammstein; 255- Creator

[Xzerostu]

Well Cadian Thats why its an alternative.'This vote if basically for the Usage of strip shield level; 1, but if we want this to be seriously considered then we need to make sure its not on a level thats abusable.

Its only meant for if its an autoattack it could be pretty abuesavive, so to limit it to those that need it would be okay, but in all honesty ide rather people look at part one not alernative part 1
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Agnilam-BoC Stalker

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[Glenfiddich]

I like it, it's just getting off a strip shield at a charging whatever class it is, is going to be nigh impossible.

I really think the auto casting will work better.

A trial of usage for one week and a trial of auto cast for one week could be used.
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Glenfiddich; 255- Professor
Jager Bomb; 255- Creator
Rammstein; 255- Creator

[GlitchyVirus]

[dragonbug]

its not a donate anymore adam. and i just dont like the exclusive class stuff cause then everyone will want stuff for their class and so on and so forth.

plus it was:

Swordman Merchant Knight Blacksmith Crusader Alchemist

who could use it. not sure why that was even a donate. lol.
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cadian!~

[Glenfiddich]

This whole topic was in order to help magic class basically. By having class specific, it would reduce the chance of abuse.

I can already think of countless ways this will be abused if it's all classes and I am very sure you do too cad.

As I have said the best way to see what will happen is to trial it. Let's trial a few different ways and see what works best. It's hard to argue the point of what will be best when we don't know what it will be like.
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Glenfiddich; 255- Professor
Jager Bomb; 255- Creator
Rammstein; 255- Creator

[Xzerostu]

I say give it a shot, it wont hurt nothing. Other gtb idea could change alto but this isnt much.
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Agnilam-BoC Stalker

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[Xarrow]

I think that Prof will be the only one able to strip their shield without dying. Seriously. If a sinx with gtb start killing you, The time that you'll get to strip his shield with make you die. (Of course you can do things like safety wall). Not to forget; strip = 2 cell range. I'd say Good luck at striping but the whole idea is really good but your prof/mage would get killed too quickly when trying to strip.
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