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Bubbaknoxz



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Since some helms in donation npc are not really used its time for them to get a revamping. One such helm is the Royal valk helm which is now shadowed by the Hero Helm. Its obvious the Royal helm needs a new script to make it worth while. For this helm I suggest some dedicated to support classes since they are in need of something great.


Purple Heart Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, increase the effectiveness of Sanc, Potion Pitcher and Heal by 10%-15%.
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.



For the next helm I suggest something useful to all classes. We know how easy it is to get status cards on this server especially with the MVP room having the king of all status cards LoD, as well as mistress dropping oca's like a mad woman. Do to the ease of getting such cards it makes the game play somewhat stupid, since on a low rate it took ages to get such cards.

Now we have a few helms we can use for this. Emerald Valk helm(Onyx Diadem), Hero Valk Helm( Bloody Valk), Peaceful Valk helm( the new flee helms beat it hands down{also the helm I like the most for this idea}).

Serenity Valk Helm
Slots: 2
All Stats +10, immune to stun, stone curse, sleep, confusion, or everything but freeze, curse, strip, critical wounds, external bleeding & coma.
Image: Valk Helm
Upper Head Gear
Weight: 100
Defense given: 4
Price: 15 GC's
All Lvl and classes can wear it.
Gives no elemental property.



Their will be no poll for this thread, I would like your honest input on these items and say at the bottom of your post, yes or no, to the idea.
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Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:14 pm
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I completely agree with both helms, neither are OP'd. the Purple Heart Valk helm would be perfect for support since there's jack all in donation for them right now and the only way to raise heals is with Bacsojin. It'd be nice to have something that's obtainable by everyone.

As for Serenity Valk helm, I couldn't agree more about the access to stat ailment cards. LoD and Flame skull are the first to come to mind among many others. Honestly it would still be fair because in my case I'd have to choose between doing 10% more damage with bloody valk or going with stat ailment resistance, same with holy valk or hero's helm users etc. you'd have to decide for yourselves if you want stat immunities or advantages in other area's. I think it'd add a nice much needed twist since there's little in the way of pure resistance yet there's a plethora of ways to deal countless stat ailments.

I'd definitely vote yes to the addition of these 2 helms.
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im 100% with the first helm
but 100% against the second
it puts alot of strategies to the ground,if you want immunity use orc hero,etc
Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:20 pm
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well i do agree that the royal helm needs to change if the Heroes crown gives 10% hp yada yada. But id still like to see something with luck increase. now another 2 helms that are very similar are, Leo Diadem, +25 atk, def -25, and Warriors Crown, atk +25.

on that second helm:
"immune to stun, stone curse, sleep, confusion, or everything but freeze, curse, strip, critical wounds, external bleeding & coma."


could be just me but sounds like you want to be immune to all skills but the ones your doing >> .
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Kiku-Ichiomonjii wrote:
im 100% with the first helm
but 100% against the second
it puts alot of strategies to the ground,if you want immunity use orc hero,etc


I'm kinda curious after reading this over and over multiple times - What "Strategy" does LoD offer? Besides Coma ofcourse.

I'm for both helms for the main reason that - You have Mistress, Orc Hero and LoD within the Mvp room. Easily the cheapest way to get the cards you need to support your "Strategy".

Serenity blocks few status', ofcourse it has a kicker to it - Giving up 10% Max HP, 10% Phys resistance from Demi, more Matk or Flee.



dragonbug wrote:
well i do agree that the royal helm needs to change if the Heroes crown gives 10% hp yada yada. But id still like to see something with luck increase. now another 2 helms that are very similar are, Leo Diadem, +25 atk, def -25, and Warriors Crown, atk +25.

on that second helm:
"immune to stun, stone curse, sleep, confusion, or everything but freeze, curse, strip, critical wounds, external bleeding & coma."


could be just me but sounds like you want to be immune to all skills but the ones your doing >> .


Now I'm also curious as to why you want a helm for just Luck, if you're saying this because you need more Crit rate - Get the Turquoise Valk helm, +10%. Aswell as for Perf Dodge, +10% with the Peaceful Valk. I personally don't see a need for a helm specifically Just for luck.

Main reason why the Serenity helm is tossed up on the board is because all these status cards are floating around out there, LoD's, Orc hero's, Pest's, Demon Pungus', Disguise, Dark Frame, etc. These are all overflowing on the server because Mistress is within the Mvp room - Easy access to OCA's with the lack of actually hunting that monsters card. Go figure why there are also so many Errende Ebecee cards floating around. But not to go off topic, the helm doesn't block against freeze, nor any other status which can really hurt. People take Curse for granted - while it can reduce damage done, aswell as reduce your def/luck.
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"Now I'm also curious as to why you want a helm for just Luck, if you're saying this because you need more Crit rate - Get the Turquoise Valk helm, +10%. Aswell as for Perf Dodge, +10% with the Peaceful Valk. I personally don't see a need for a helm specifically Just for luck." ~nightshade.



i suggest LUCK cause we dont have a helm for LUCK. we have a helm for every other damned stat. I would just like some variety. Luck does other things besides crit >>"" . crit is easy, vanberk card duh. other players might find luck useful as well. thats why its called a "suggestion"

and i personally dont see a helm specifically to help with heal and potion pitcher since there's cards, rings, ect..that help with that. but hey thats the glory of "free will and opinion" we all have one x.x
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both helms are cool, no comments.
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dragonbug wrote:
"Now I'm also curious as to why you want a helm for just Luck, if you're saying this because you need more Crit rate - Get the Turquoise Valk helm, +10%. Aswell as for Perf Dodge, +10% with the Peaceful Valk. I personally don't see a need for a helm specifically Just for luck." ~nightshade.



i suggest LUCK cause we dont have a helm for LUCK. we have a helm for every other damned stat. I would just like some variety. Luck does other things besides crit >>"" . crit is easy, vanberk card duh. other players might find luck useful as well. thats why its called a "suggestion"

and i personally dont see a helm specifically to help with heal and potion pitcher since there's cards, rings, ect..that help with that. but hey thats the glory of "free will and opinion" we all have one x.x


Ok now, you said it just now that there's no need for the Heal, Pot Pitch/Slim Pot and Sanc helm, yet there aren't many items that increase Heal, Pot Pitch/Slim Pot. Bacso Card is the only thing for ALL 3(Pot Pitch, Sanc and heal) not including Slim Pot which is more favored by Biochems.

I see no purpose for the helm you're suggestion because there are Plenty of cards/EQ's that do the same thing. Such as the Venatu card, Every 18 Agi you get 1 Luk, Rosary's and Brisingamen? All of these are for Luck, possibly even more but I'm too tired to list RMS' entire Database.
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any other thoughts on this idea?
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both helms would be nice Surprised

1st Helm: yes
2nd Helm: yes
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Helm was so my idea :O The aid pot one that is.
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Just got a chance to read this thread better more importantly the responses.

dragonbug wrote:
well i do agree that the royal helm needs to change if the Heroes crown gives 10% hp yada yada. But id still like to see something with luck increase. now another 2 helms that are very similar are, Leo Diadem, +25 atk, def -25, and Warriors Crown, atk +25.

on that second helm:
"immune to stun, stone curse, sleep, confusion, or everything but freeze, curse, strip, critical wounds, external bleeding & coma."


could be just me but sounds like you want to be immune to all skills but the ones your doing >> .




The first helm as Jay pointed out plenty of items out there for luk, trust me we know the list pretty well and its more than 1 item. For the purple heart helm, their is only one card that does that and its Basco.

The second helm, I only use status on the creator, and that means you have to get up close to me. Which is a bish to do, other than that I hardly use any status on here, its a mid rate ffs.

Now the reason I said those status you can't be immune to is because of:

Strip: Its a stalker skill, thus nullifies a class.
Freeze: Only 6 things cause freeze on the server, Sasquatch & Marina (OCA), Garm & SK (you gotta hunt), Garm hat (Donation), and Wizzy SG FD etc.
Curse: It's knocks your attk down, slows you down, and makes you luk 0.
The other two have their own thing which is healing based and hp based.
Coma: instant KO if it goes through, especially with tarot cards.


I played on a low rate, and was a status sniper, it took me ages to find all the cards needed for my bow. A mid rate with a MVP room makes them very easy to get, almost to easy. It doesnt take the dedication it used to take to find these items.

Now as Brandon brought up, you have to choice whether or not the helm is an important investment to you or not. Some ppl dont want to give up their 10% hp, damage, resistance, etc. I mean look a new set of donations just came out and some ppl stayed with the old donates. Some picked up the new ones, depending on how well they wanted it and found use for it. So you can still have your build and what not, since this helm may not be worn by everyone.


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i still think its over powered,it makes some cards useless EX:Orc Hero,Deviruchi etc
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Kiku-Ichiomonjii wrote:
i still think its over powered,it makes some cards useless EX:Orc Hero,Deviruchi etc



They wont be useless because some ppl may stay with their old head gear and use those cards. Its up to a person to decide whether or not they need the helm to give them some form of immunity, or if they want their damage, hp, and what not. It's not as overpowering as some of the head gears out right now, thats for certain.
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Bubbaknoxz wrote:
Kiku-Ichiomonjii wrote:
i still think its over powered,it makes some cards useless EX:Orc Hero,Deviruchi etc



They wont be useless because some ppl may stay with their old head gear and use those cards. Its up to a person to decide whether or not they need the helm to give them some form of immunity, or if they want their damage, hp, and what not. It's not as overpowering as some of the head gears out right now, thats for certain.



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