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| marine wrote: | | Nyano wrote: | Fix definition fix (fiks)
transitive verb fixed, fixing fix′·ing
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a.to make firm, stable, or secure
b.to fasten or attach firmly
2.to set firmly in the mind
3.
a.to direct steadily to fix the eyes on a target
b.to direct one's eyes steadily at to fix the target
4.to make rigid or stiff to fix one's jaw
5.to make permanent or lasting color is fixed in dyeing
6.
a.to arrange or establish definitely; set to fix the date of a wedding
b.to determine with certainty to fix the period of the dinosaurs' existence
c.to assign or ascribe the jury must fix guilt
7.to arrange properly or in a certain way; set in order; adjust
8.to restore to proper condition; repair, mend, remedy, heal, etc.
9.to bank, refuel, and tend (a fire)
10.to prepare and cook (food or meals
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1.
a.to make firm, stable, or secure
b.to fasten or attach firmly
2.to set firmly in the mind
3.
a.to direct steadily to fix the eyes on a target
b.to direct one's eyes steadily at to fix the target
4.to make rigid or stiff to fix one's jaw
5.to make permanent or lasting color is fixed in dyeing
6.
a.to arrange or establish definitely; set to fix the date of a wedding
b.to determine with certainty to fix the period of the dinosaurs' existence
c.to assign or ascribe the jury must fix guilt
7.to arrange properly or in a certain way; set in order; adjust
8.to restore to proper condition; repair, mend, remedy, heal, etc.
9.to bank, refuel, and tend (a fire)
10.to prepare and cook (food or meals[/color]
i dont get any of this it look just senseless if u making fun or something u are a inorite . if not sory like zebruh says there a huge language barrier between lot of pple and me . |
Want him to learn what FIX really means :'o Not making fun.<3 I do not hate nor make fun of anyone. It is a simple suggestion, and if he does not know what it means. I will help him.
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| Glenfiddich wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: |
Am I the only person here with the balls(putting it nicely) to go fight without outside help?
And for the last thing no this doesn't help us whoop anyone's arse faster than we already can. |
Those two points are almost contradictory to each other. You know you can "whoop" other players asses, due to the cards you have (dont know what cards you have).
You deny saying it will help you, then you make that first point? Some people need the outside help, some peoples builds rely on that outside help. These "outside" buffs are the only thing stopping the margin between the normal players and the crazy players extending even further. |
This is what I woe with, so you see what my char really was wearing for a while...
valk helm like majority of ppl
wings
ruwach helm thingy
valk armor with marc/ed
flame skull shield
slepnirs
and blade with Incan in it...
Its not uber gear, and yet I did pretty well woeing with that gear. Basically all of that with the exception of the donates can be bought in the market. Whats really the difference between me and someone else who uses the same gear?
Does that make me any better than some other person on this server? I get my weapon stripped is that going to stop me fighting? No, you can ask Dreams that one, I stay attacking even without a weapon on. I may die but I am sure as hell going to make you waste your pots when I get back.
Moral is: People shouldn't need to depend on outside help(Ahura, scrolls) when it comes to WoE, thats my take on it.
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| Nyano wrote: | | marine wrote: | | Nyano wrote: | Fix definition fix (fiks)
transitive verb fixed, fixing fix′·ing
1.
a.to make firm, stable, or secure
b.to fasten or attach firmly
2.to set firmly in the mind
3.
a.to direct steadily to fix the eyes on a target
b.to direct one's eyes steadily at to fix the target
4.to make rigid or stiff to fix one's jaw
5.to make permanent or lasting color is fixed in dyeing
6.
a.to arrange or establish definitely; set to fix the date of a wedding
b.to determine with certainty to fix the period of the dinosaurs' existence
c.to assign or ascribe the jury must fix guilt
7.to arrange properly or in a certain way; set in order; adjust
8.to restore to proper condition; repair, mend, remedy, heal, etc.
9.to bank, refuel, and tend (a fire)
10.to prepare and cook (food or meals
make a poll :'D
EDIT: (YES AGAIN) Yes, people are free to express their ideas and stuff. Does NOT mean it will happen. --; |
1.
a.to make firm, stable, or secure
b.to fasten or attach firmly
2.to set firmly in the mind
3.
a.to direct steadily to fix the eyes on a target
b.to direct one's eyes steadily at to fix the target
4.to make rigid or stiff to fix one's jaw
5.to make permanent or lasting color is fixed in dyeing
6.
a.to arrange or establish definitely; set to fix the date of a wedding
b.to determine with certainty to fix the period of the dinosaurs' existence
c.to assign or ascribe the jury must fix guilt
7.to arrange properly or in a certain way; set in order; adjust
8.to restore to proper condition; repair, mend, remedy, heal, etc.
9.to bank, refuel, and tend (a fire)
10.to prepare and cook (food or meals[/color]
i dont get any of this it look just senseless if u making fun or something u are a inorite . if not sory like zebruh says there a huge language barrier between lot of pple and me . |
Want him to learn what FIX really means :'o Not making fun.<3 I do not hate nor make fun of anyone. It is a simple suggestion, and if he does not know what it means. I will help him. |
I think me being of my age is already a given. I Know What the word "FIX" Means. Clearly you're thinking I'm some little child who has no use of grammar? Now I have to repeat myself because my point flew Clearly over your head.
The point of this thread was to EDIT the shield so that it cannot be used on Guild Castle Maps, Simple no?
But yet you have to make things complicated in trying to make this into an arguement.
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The best idea i heard to fix this was the debuff wile entering a castle,by disabling the whole thing during woe it would effect players who do not woe.
by reprogramming it would further cause problems reasons being on skyes post. and this topic wouldn't be here if we had left it alone so the best option would be to fix the buff itself not the sheild.
yes true if they want to they will duel client and place there other user in the castle but here is the thing guys remember castles are pvp territory they are not going to worry about one buffer wile they hit the castle. so if you have the castles to debuff the users they will have no choice to buff inside. and as we know angra and ahura cant touch the inside of a castle thus fixing the ahura problem.
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| Unknown username wrote: | The best idea i heard to fix this was the debuff wile entering a castle,by disabling the whole thing during woe it would effect players who do not woe.
by reprogramming it would further cause problems reasons being on skyes post. and this topic wouldn't be here if we had left it alone so the best option would be to fix the buff itself not the sheild.
yes true if they want to they will duel client and place there other user in the castle but here is the thing guys remember castles are pvp territory they are not going to worry about one buffer wile they hit the castle. so if you have the castles to debuff the users they will have no choice to buff inside. and as we know angra and ahura cant touch the inside of a castle thus fixing the ahura problem. |
i feel flatered someone agreed with debuf was teh best idea .
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Yeah, but people are gonna complain about how "Now the people who already have the castles get an advantage!"
Who would have guessed that you'd get an advantage from a place that you own and can upgrade?
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| Godfather wrote: | Dude. Debuffing everyone at the entrance of every castle is a terrible idea. Then the opposing team would just camp inside the door and kill you the moment your buffs are gone.
That's horrible. |
I stated this on page 1 in regards to debuffing at castle entrances. Please keep in mind that that plan has it's flaws.
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[quote="Godfather"] | Godfather wrote: | Dude. Debuffing everyone at the entrance of every castle is a terrible idea. Then the opposing team would just camp inside the door and kill you the moment your buffs are gone.
That's horrible. |
And yet they did it for PvP, and it sucks. Same problem in PvP. If it is implemented for woe, all parts of player verse player this game has to offer will suck.
People camp you, and your alts.
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| Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:49 am |
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We can just acept the things as their are and .
if u can beat em join em . well im joinin
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| NightShade wrote: | | Nyano wrote: | | marine wrote: | | Nyano wrote: | Fix definition fix (fiks)
transitive verb fixed, fixing fix′·ing
1.
a.to make firm, stable, or secure
b.to fasten or attach firmly
2.to set firmly in the mind
3.
a.to direct steadily to fix the eyes on a target
b.to direct one's eyes steadily at to fix the target
4.to make rigid or stiff to fix one's jaw
5.to make permanent or lasting color is fixed in dyeing
6.
a.to arrange or establish definitely; set to fix the date of a wedding
b.to determine with certainty to fix the period of the dinosaurs' existence
c.to assign or ascribe the jury must fix guilt
7.to arrange properly or in a certain way; set in order; adjust
8.to restore to proper condition; repair, mend, remedy, heal, etc.
9.to bank, refuel, and tend (a fire)
10.to prepare and cook (food or meals
make a poll :'D
EDIT: (YES AGAIN) Yes, people are free to express their ideas and stuff. Does NOT mean it will happen. --; |
1.
a.to make firm, stable, or secure
b.to fasten or attach firmly
2.to set firmly in the mind
3.
a.to direct steadily to fix the eyes on a target
b.to direct one's eyes steadily at to fix the target
4.to make rigid or stiff to fix one's jaw
5.to make permanent or lasting color is fixed in dyeing
6.
a.to arrange or establish definitely; set to fix the date of a wedding
b.to determine with certainty to fix the period of the dinosaurs' existence
c.to assign or ascribe the jury must fix guilt
7.to arrange properly or in a certain way; set in order; adjust
8.to restore to proper condition; repair, mend, remedy, heal, etc.
9.to bank, refuel, and tend (a fire)
10.to prepare and cook (food or meals[/color]
i dont get any of this it look just senseless if u making fun or something u are a inorite . if not sory like zebruh says there a huge language barrier between lot of pple and me . |
Want him to learn what FIX really means :'o Not making fun.<3 I do not hate nor make fun of anyone. It is a simple suggestion, and if he does not know what it means. I will help him. |
I think me being of my age is already a given. I Know What the word "FIX" Means. Clearly you're thinking I'm some little child who has no use of grammar? Now I have to repeat myself because my point flew Clearly over your head.
The point of this thread was to EDIT the shield so that it cannot be used on Guild Castle Maps, Simple no?
But yet you have to make things complicated in trying to make this into an arguement. |
Argument? boi u crazy!
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Well with the argument of the GTB card being disabled, I want to bring up this thread again. Using the same excuse magic users used  ..
The Ahura plan and simple negates Stalker classes greatly, because some rely on strip to get the job done. With a creator its ok because you can see the creator coming. LK's, Sinx's, and other classes shouldn't be able to use the skill, without the aide of a creator.
I say remove it from the server completely now, if there is no other way around it.
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| Bubbaknoxz wrote: | Well with the argument of the GTB card being disabled, I want to bring up this thread again. Using the same excuse magic users used ..
The Ahura plan and simple negates Stalker classes greatly, because some rely on strip to get the job done. With a creator its ok because you can see the creator coming. LK's, Sinx's, and other classes shouldn't be able to use the skill, without the aide of a creator.
I say remove it from the server completely now, if there is no other way around it. |
| Godfather wrote: | I'm going to say this as respectfully, though bluntly, as possible.
There is no point to changing Full Chemical Protection in WoE. The Stalkers that do show up rely on their Preserved skills FAR more than they do their strip skills. Certainly being able to strip off people's equipment before attacking them is useful, but it won't always work.
Doing this will just raise the number of people that Stalkers can strip during WoE from 10% to 15%. People who want to FCP will STILL DO IT. |
*Quotes Godfather*
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| ShadowNguyen91 wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | Well with the argument of the GTB card being disabled, I want to bring up this thread again. Using the same excuse magic users used ..
The Ahura plan and simple negates Stalker classes greatly, because some rely on strip to get the job done. With a creator its ok because you can see the creator coming. LK's, Sinx's, and other classes shouldn't be able to use the skill, without the aide of a creator.
I say remove it from the server completely now, if there is no other way around it. |
| Godfather wrote: | I'm going to say this as respectfully, though bluntly, as possible.
There is no point to changing Full Chemical Protection in WoE. The Stalkers that do show up rely on their Preserved skills FAR more than they do their strip skills. Certainly being able to strip off people's equipment before attacking them is useful, but it won't always work.
Doing this will just raise the number of people that Stalkers can strip during WoE from 10% to 15%. People who want to FCP will STILL DO IT. |
*Quotes Godfather* |
Terrible quote to use.. Ironic how I used my Stalker today and was only able to strip about.. 14 people? Where as a certain few I wasn't able to due to them having FCP via Ahura since I haven't seen a Creator within or anywhere near the guild castle.
So if you complain about GTB on how it kicks your arse because you can't do anything about it. I have every right to complain about this shield.
Enough said.
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| ShadowNguyen91 wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | Well with the argument of the GTB card being disabled, I want to bring up this thread again. Using the same excuse magic users used ..
The Ahura plan and simple negates Stalker classes greatly, because some rely on strip to get the job done. With a creator its ok because you can see the creator coming. LK's, Sinx's, and other classes shouldn't be able to use the skill, without the aide of a creator.
I say remove it from the server completely now, if there is no other way around it. |
| Godfather wrote: | I'm going to say this as respectfully, though bluntly, as possible.
There is no point to changing Full Chemical Protection in WoE. The Stalkers that do show up rely on their Preserved skills FAR more than they do their strip skills. Certainly being able to strip off people's equipment before attacking them is useful, but it won't always work.
Doing this will just raise the number of people that Stalkers can strip during WoE from 10% to 15%. People who want to FCP will STILL DO IT. |
*Quotes Godfather* |
This are points of view nyigen and godpapa.
While some stalkers rely on their preserve skills is actually full strip the skill more unique of this class .
yea the shield during woe negates em totally , how come i see tons of stalkers usin strip on pvp but during woe there are practically 0 walkin around ooo ooo sory today i saw 1 agnilam durin woe walkin around . . but still just like magic users complains of gtb "a card very hard to get" why stalkers cant complain of ahura "a shield worth 10 gc ".
Touche? XD
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| NightShade wrote: | | ShadowNguyen91 wrote: | | Bubbaknoxz wrote: | Well with the argument of the GTB card being disabled, I want to bring up this thread again. Using the same excuse magic users used ..
The Ahura plan and simple negates Stalker classes greatly, because some rely on strip to get the job done. With a creator its ok because you can see the creator coming. LK's, Sinx's, and other classes shouldn't be able to use the skill, without the aide of a creator.
I say remove it from the server completely now, if there is no other way around it. |
| Godfather wrote: | I'm going to say this as respectfully, though bluntly, as possible.
There is no point to changing Full Chemical Protection in WoE. The Stalkers that do show up rely on their Preserved skills FAR more than they do their strip skills. Certainly being able to strip off people's equipment before attacking them is useful, but it won't always work.
Doing this will just raise the number of people that Stalkers can strip during WoE from 10% to 15%. People who want to FCP will STILL DO IT. |
*Quotes Godfather* |
Terrible quote to use.. Ironic how I used my Stalker today and was only able to strip about.. 14 people? Where as a certain few I wasn't able to due to them having FCP via Ahura since I haven't seen a Creator within or anywhere near the guild castle.
So if you complain about GTB on how it kicks your arse because you can't do anything about it. I have every right to complain about this shield.
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You can't be serious. Ahura's FCP doesn't even come close to GTB.
I'm POSITIVE that if this were somehow done, where you couldn't use Ahura's FCP, you would STILL be complaining. REGARDLESS of whether or not Ahura's FCP is removed or changed in some way, people will just use a Creator if they REALLY want it. And we would still be back at square one. And if you REALLY have to rely upon Strip in order to kill someone, you aren't a very good stalker.
GTB is ONE card, suprisingly common, and TOTALLY shuts down 3-5 classes. Now, Priests and Magic Stalkers may have OTHER options, they still have chosen to be magically oriented. But Wizzes, Profs, and Ninjas, they're ENTIRE class DEPENDS on magic. And GTB is the ultimate counter to them. Of course, Ninjas can go Shuriken and Full Strike build, it doesn't really help because they aren't very good builds to begin with.
However, I believe there is a way to resolve this.
I believe that the Bell Ribbon, which allows lvl 1 Angelus, somehow removes the Angelus effect when the Bell is taken off. Could a similar property be incorperated into the Ahura? I'm unsure if this is a skill effect, or the item's programming, or EVEN a glitch. But it would still work if this can be implemented, right?
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