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| Xarrow wrote: | To activate with a bow, you have to be at least 2 cell distance.
Imagine strip from ranged haha... would be overpowered? |
My stalker was able to use Wiki and Metaling from range, I have no idea why it's been changed. Seems like a nerf to me more than a justified fix.
Such as the topic I brought up when I first joined Reign, Fcp on Ahura, which people still use on the map before entering a castle.
Long story short, Stalker class still gets the shaft on this server. I'll be awaiting replies to my post.
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| Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:24 am |
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Personally, I don't like the change.
But, Stalker is also the most diverse class in the entire game.
Something like this won't make a huge difference. |
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| Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:32 am |
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| Monochrome wrote: | Personally, I don't like the change.
But, Stalker is also the most diverse class in the entire game.
Something like this won't make a huge difference. |
It would actually, this change alone would kill my bow Stalkers old build. Stalkers aren't the only diverse class out there, and I know you said 'most', which is some sense is true because they can copy skills. But this change gimps them a bit, I wouldn't consider the gimp to be as bad as Hw vs Gtb, but it seems pretty close.
Also, on another note. This current update screws over Snipers aswell, which are already screwed over more than enough with the monsoon of EE cards on the server.
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| NightShade wrote: | | Xarrow wrote: | To activate with a bow, you have to be at least 2 cell distance.
Imagine strip from ranged haha... would be overpowered? |
My stalker was able to use Wiki and Metaling from range, I have no idea why it's been changed. Seems like a nerf to me more than a justified fix.
Such as the topic I brought up when I first joined Reign, Fcp on Ahura, which people still use on the map before entering a castle.
Long story short, Stalker class still gets the shaft on this server. I'll be awaiting replies to my post. |
Yeah, Add above stalker, Professor and High Wizard.
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I wouldn't mind seeing this to be changed again. I have to agree with Jay, this hurts them a bit. My build pretty much relies on (or at least, it was supposed to until I realized this) getting Wikebine Tres to work. My sniper now officially has no chance against any LK that wears marc and heavy shield, too.
@Wurg: It wasn't as cheap as you think. Just because I used a 3-Metaling'd bow doesn't mean I ever killed anyone -.- In fact I think I died a lot BECAUSE of it. And don't forget that Pnuema still owns bows regardless.
I can't see the reasoning for this change. I know that it is supposed to be a melee-only skill, but that shouldn't apply. Does that mean that Staff of Destruction, Dark Lord, Wind Ghost, Ring of Flame Lord, Garm Baby, etc. etc. should also be untriggerable at max range as well? Because last I checked, Frost Diver doesn't have infinite range, nor does JT, or MS, or Pressure, or Sonic Blow, etc. etc. etc...
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| Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:48 am |
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Your old stalker build? I assume this means you've found a better one.
I used to use a Metaling x2 LoD, Phree bow. Soften up the enemy and then switch to my heavy-hitter. Alot of the time, though, it is impossible to stay far away from the enemy for very long, anyway.
Aside from Adam, you're the only stalker I've seen who hasn't gone completely magic or pure damage. There were alot more, but they changed for one reason or another.
A list of all the players who did have this build won't mean anything.
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But, there is no doubt in my mind that Snipers are truly getting bent over for this change.
Adam, those spells have a pretty decent range. I believe the change was also made for them, but I also haven't tested it.
Regardless, I'd like to see it go back to the way it was. |
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| Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:31 am |
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| Monochrome wrote: | Your old stalker build? I assume this means you've found a better one.
I used to use a Metaling x2 LoD, Phree bow. Soften up the enemy and then switch to my heavy-hitter. Alot of the time, though, it is impossible to stay far away from the enemy for very long, anyway.
Aside from Adam, you're the only stalker I've seen who hasn't gone completely magic or pure damage. There were alot more, but they changed for one reason or another.
A list of all the players who did have this build won't mean anything.
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But, there is no doubt in my mind that Snipers are truly getting bent over for this change.
Adam, those spells have a pretty decent range. I believe the change was also made for them, but I also haven't tested it.
Regardless, I'd like to see it go back to the way it was. |
I've found tweaks here and there with the build, but it's still pretty much the same build. I've gone complete Magic a few times, it gets too tedious after awhile. As for a Pure Dmg, my 'old' build was a mix for magic and high-hitting dmg.
Which sortof counts, but anyway, let's get back on topic since we've strayed alittle.
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| Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:37 am |
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This originated as a bug report. We have concluded that this is not a bug. This is intended and official behavior. This behavior has been in effect for probably a year already.
Now, it doesn't mean that I agree (or disagree) with this behavior. The important thing is that this is official, and as such, this behavior will stay. We simply cannot pick and choose which fixes/changes/updates to implement and not implement.
Everything is always in a state of change.
(Yes, if it were REALLY up to me, DOWN WITH PNEUMA! And snipers should be able to shoot laser beams from their eyes!)
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| Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:49 am |
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| luzz wrote: | | And snipers should be able to shoot laser beams from their eyes!) |
Only part I read. THAT WOULD BE AMAZING! Can it be lightning instead?
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| luzz wrote: | This originated as a bug report. We have concluded that this is not a bug. This is intended and official behavior. This behavior has been in effect for probably a year already.
Now, it doesn't mean that I agree (or disagree) with this behavior. The important thing is that this is official, and as such, this behavior will stay. We simply cannot pick and choose which fixes/changes/updates to implement and not implement.
Everything is always in a state of change.
(Yes, if it were REALLY up to me, DOWN WITH PNEUMA! And snipers should be able to shoot laser beams from their eyes!) |
Wad 'bout Stalkers?! :B
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| NightShade wrote: |
Wad 'bout Stalkers?! :B
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Stalkers get the ability to summon William Lepeska!
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(Okay, back on topic? Will lock this topic tomorrow.)
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Ok ok ok, Topic is - Even if a Poll was made, still wouldn't change it? =X
If not, BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is it just me or does William Lepeska...
look alot like Hugh Laurie in House?
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| ShadowNguyen91 wrote: | | NightShade wrote: | | Xarrow wrote: | To activate with a bow, you have to be at least 2 cell distance.
Imagine strip from ranged haha... would be overpowered? |
My stalker was able to use Wiki and Metaling from range, I have no idea why it's been changed. Seems like a nerf to me more than a justified fix.
Such as the topic I brought up when I first joined Reign, Fcp on Ahura, which people still use on the map before entering a castle.
Long story short, Stalker class still gets the shaft on this server. I'll be awaiting replies to my post. |
Yeah, Add above stalker, Professor and High Wizard. |
i have a profesor and i dont think they wek at all, maybe u just need a party :/
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| Neo Genisis wrote: | Is it just me or does William Lepeska...
look alot like Hugh Laurie in House?
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lol he is house :B
on other thing, i would check the script of said cards looking if they have this type of description on the trunk data base...
ima use on example lord of death card : { bonus3 bAddEff,Eff_Stun,500,ATF_SHORT; bonus3 bAddEff,Eff_Curse,500,ATF_SHORT; bonus3 bAddEff,Eff_Silence,500,ATF_SHORT; bonus3 bAddEff,Eff_Poison,500,ATF_SHORT; bonus3 bAddEff,Eff_Bleeding,500,ATF_SHORT; bonus2 bWeaponComaRace,RC_NonBoss,1; },{},{}
atf_short = only on short range.
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